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the documents is out there supporting this stuff, its called 'SPECIAL VIRUS CANCER PROGRAM', an AIDS activist called Boyd Graves found the documents through the library in the late 90's called the '1971 SPECIAL VIRUS RESEARCH LOGIC FLOW CHART', which is available from his website(which the US goverment took over last year after he took the goverment to court over the creation of the AIDS virus, an they have also locked off his books that break it all down, about how AIDS was created by the US for population control reasons from being sold) http://www.boydgraves.com

The AIDS virus is basically the man made visna virus(along wit other man made lower species viruses) linked wit man made pathegenic mycoplasmas extracted from the brucellosis bacteria, the root of all of this is the eugenics movement from the late 1800's in the US(who inspired Hitler) through the social elite in various important positions in society who thought an see certain people around the world as inferior to them or sumthin, up until the population control movement(which is basically the same racist bizness as before but due to the public hitler backlash after the 2nd world war, they disguised it as 'population control' instead of eugenics, ya see what I'm saying) after the 2nd world war, the influx of nazi scientists through 'OPERATION PAPERCLIP' into the US goverments bio-warfare services, you see what I'm saying, Boyd has a merorandum from 'february 1948 FOREIGN POLICY STATEMENT NO.21' by George W Mckenna where it basically breaks down about how the 'US has to develop a scheme to deal with the growing population of the third world'. Boyd also has a Time magazine article called 'BETTER THAN THE BOMB' from 'June 3rd 1946 where the MAY 1946 APPROPRIATION HEARING is discussing a biological agent'. Boyd thinks they were discussing the inducement of visna into the human genome. After this you had the 'MK NAOMI(which stands for NEGROES ARE ONLY MONETARY INDIVIDUALS)' operation an the 1957 'SPECIAL OPERATION X(THE SOX)' which were the basis for the 'SPECIAL VIRUS PROGRAM' to begin in in 1962 under the disguise of cancer research, in 1969 Fort Detrick(US goverment bio-warfare institution) asked the pentagon for more money to produce a virus that the human immune system has know natural immunity to, Nixon's 'JULY 18th SECRET MEMO' to congress on overpoulation is seen as the start of the paper trail of the AIDS holocaust, you know, its real, the '1974 NSSM-200(US plan to address overpopulation)' by Henry Kissinger which was the only discussion at the World Population Conference in Bucharest, Romania is important too, along wit '1975's President Gerald Ford's signature of NATIONAL DEFENSE MEMORANDUM 314', basically implementing the NSSM-200. In 1977 AIDS was attached wit the small pox vaccine for Africa and the experimental hepatitis B vaccine for Manhattan in New York

An you know, theirs a cure for AIDS out there too called Imusil(Tetrasil) which basically works like those substances that clean swimming pools, cleansing the body of the virus, you see what I'm saying, it was basically patented through the US courts in 97 by Marvin Antelman(given to him by Robert Gallo who was one of the creators of AIDS and is named in the '1971 special virus logic research report') from the Marantech Organization in Rhode Island, USA as the cure for AIDS, they have used it in trials in Honduras an Congo, the Honduras trials basically brought people who had 'wasting sydrome' an 'candiasis'who were basically on there deathbed, the one time injection of Imusil basically brought them back too full recovery, apart from 2 out of 9 who basically passed away later on due to complications from the organs which were damaged already an beyond repair from AIDS, Imusil just totally gets rid of the virus, it dosen't repair organs which are beyond repair, you see what I'm saying, the trials in Congo from what I've heard are going well too, an you know, Boyd Graves who had AIDS was given the injection of Imusil in 2001 an has fully recovered(but after the trial in 2003 in San Diego after he took the US goverment to court over the creation of AIDS, feds came round his place an arrested him an banged him up a little an called him a racial slur an injected him wit sumthin, but after that now, when he went to the police station an that, they told him know records of the arrest exist)

You can go to http://www.google.com or http://www.yahoo.com an type US Patent & 5676977 an the patent for the Imusil should come up, but even still, here's a little timeline of the whole AIDS bizness, when you have the time an that definetly check it out you know, lets go
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here's the timeline people...

The History of the Development of AIDS
Chapter Excerpt from ?State Origin: The Evidence of the Laboratory Birth of AIDS?
by Boyd E. Graves, J.D.



The true history of the origin of AIDS can be traced throughout the 20th Century and back to 1878. On April 29 of that year the United States passed a ?FEDERAL QUARANTINE ACT?.

The United States began a significant effort to investigate ?causes? of epidemic diseases. In 1887, the effort was enhanced with the mandate of the U.S. ?LABORATORY OF HYGIENE?. This lab was run by Dr. Joseph J. Kinyoun, a deep rooted-racist, who served the eugenics movement with dedication.

Two years later, 1889, we were able to identify ?mycoplasmas?, a transmissible agent, that is now found at the heart of human diseases, including (AIDS) HIV.

In 1893, we strengthened the Federal Quarantine Act and suddenly there was an explosion of polio.

In 1898, we knew we could use mycoplasma to cause epidemics, because we were able to do so in cattle, and we saw it in tobacco plants.

In 1899, the U.S. Congress began investigating ?leprosy in the United States?.

In 1902, We organized a ?Station for Experimental Evolution? and we were able to identify diseases of an ethnic nature.

In 1904, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in horses.

In 1910, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in fowl/birds.

In 1917, we formed the ?Federation of the American Society for Experimental Biology? (FASEB).

In 1918, the influenza virus killed millions of unsuspecting. It was a flu virus modified with a bird mycoplasma for which human primates had no ?acquired immunity?.

In 1921, lead eugenics philosopher, Betrand Russell, publicly supported the ?necessity for ?organized? plagues? against the Black population.

In 1931, we secretly tested African Americans and we tested AIDS in sheep.

In 1935, we learned we could crystallize the tobacco mycoplasma, and it would remain infectious.

In 1943, we officially began our bio-warfare program. Shortly thereafter, we were finding our way to New Guinea to study mycoplasma in humans.

In 1945, we witnessed the greatest influx of foreign scientists in history into the U.S. biological program. Operation Paperclip will live in infamy as one of the darkest programs of a twisted parallel government fixated on genocide.

In 1946, the United States Navy hired Dr. Earl Traub, a notorious racist biologist.
A May appropriations hearing confirms the existence of a ?secret? biological weapon.

In 1948, we know that the United States confirmed the endorsement of ?devising a scheme? in which to address the issue of overpopulation in certain racial groups. State Department?s George McKennan?s memo will forever illuminate the eugenics mendacity necessary for genocide of millions of innocent people.

In 1949, Dr. Bjorn Sigurdsson isolates the VISNA virus. Visna is man made and shares some ?unique DNA? with HIV. See, Proceedings of the United States, NAS, Vol. 92, pp. 3283 - 7, (April 11, 1995).

In 1951, we now know our government conducted its first virus attack on African Americans. Crates in Pennsylvania were tainted to see how many Negro crate handlers in Virginia would acquire the placebo virus.. They were also experimentally infecting sheep and goats. According to author Eva Snead, they also held their first world conference on an AIDS-like virus.

In 1954, Dr. Bjorn Sigurdsson publishes his first paper on Visna virus and establishes himself as the ?Grandfather of the AIDS virus.? He will encounter competition from Dr. Carlton Gajdusek.

In 1955, they were able to artificially assemble the tobacco mosaic virus. Mycoplasmas will forever be at the heart of the U.S. biological warfare program

In 1957, future U.S. president, Rep Gerald Ford and others gave the U.S. Pentagon permission to aggressively deploy offensive biological agents. There are no recorded cases of AIDS prior to the 1957 creation of ?Special Operation-X.? (The SOX) program served as the immediate prototype program for the Special Virus program to begin in 1962.

By 1960, Nikita Kruschev had been let in on the biological weapon. His 1960 statement will long reflect the arrogance of the secret blend of communism and democracy. The two countries would go to a November 1972 agreement to cull the Black Population.

In 1961, scientist Haldor Thomar publishes that viruses cause cancer. In 1995, he and Carlton Gajdusek informed the National Academy of Sciences that ?the study of visna in sheep would be the best test for candidate anti-HIV drugs.?

In 1962, under the cover of cancer research, the United States charts a path to commit premeditated murder, the ?Special Virus? program begins on February 12th. Dr. Len Hayflick sets up a U.S. mycoplasma laboratory at Stanford University. Many believe the ?Special Virus? program began in November 1961 with a Phizer contract.

Beginning in 1963 and for every year thereafter, the ?Special Virus? program conducted annual progress reviews at Hershey Medical Center, Hershey, PA. The annual meetings are representative of the aggressive nature in which the United States pursued the development of AIDS.

In 1964, the United States Congress gave full support for the leukemia/lymphoma (AIDS) virus research.

In 1967, the National Academy of Sciences launched a full scale assault on Africa. The CIA (Technical Services Division) acknowledged its secret inoculator program.

In 1969, Fort Detrick told world scientists and the Pentagon asked for more money, they knew they could make AIDS. Nixon?s July 18 secret memo to Congress on ?Overpopulation? serves as the start of the paper trail of the AIDS Holocaust.

In 1970, President Nixon signed PL91-213 and John D. Rockefeller, III became the ?Population Czar.? Nixon?s August 10 National Security Memo leaves no doubt as to the genocidal nature of depopulation.

In 1971, Progress Report #8 is issued. The flowchart (pg. 61) will forever resolve the true laboratory birth origin of AIDS. Eventually the Special Virus program will issue 15 reports and over 20,000 scientific papers. The flowchart links every scientific paper, medical experiment and U.S. contract. The flowchart would remain ?missing? until 1999. World scientists were stunned. The flowchart will gain in significance throughout the 21st Century. It is also clear the experiments conducted under Phase IV-A of the flowchart are our best route to better therapy and treatment for people living with HIV/AIDS. The first sixty pages of progress report #8 of the Special Virus program prove conclusively the specific goal of the program. By June 1977, the Special Virus program had produced 15, 000 gallons of AIDS. The AIDS virus was attached as complement to vaccines sent to Africa and Manhattan. However, because of the thoroughness of authors, like Dr. Robert E. Lee, we also learn the Stanford Mycoplasma Laboratory issues one of the first papers with AIDS in the title. ?Viral Infections in Man Associated with Acquired Immunological Deficiency States.? The primary scientist, Dr. Thomas Merigan, was a ?consultant? to the Special Virus program.

Progress Report # 8 at 104 - 106 proves Dr. Robert Gallo was secretly working on the development of AIDS with full support of the sector of the U.S. government that seeks to kill its citizens. Dr. Gallo can not explain why he excluded his role as a ?project officer? for the Special Virus program from his biographical book. Dr. Gallo?s early work and discoveries will finally be viewed in relation to the flowchart. We now know where every experiment fits into the flowchart. The ?research logic? is irrefutable evidence of a federal ?Manhattan-style project? to develop a ?contagious? cancer that ?selectively? kills. Dr. Gallo?s 1971 paper is identical to his 1984 AIDS announcement.

Progress Report #8 at 273 - 286 proves we gave AIDS to monkeys. Since 1962, the United States and Dr. Robert Gallo have been inoculating monkeys and re-releasing them back into the wild. Thus, even government scientists are baffled that both HIV-1 and HIV-II would ?suddenly emerge? from two distinct monkey ancestral relatives during the last 100 years. A 1999 Japanese study will ultimately prove the Man to Monkey origin of Monkey AIDS. The monkey experiments summary definitively proves Monkey AIDS is also man-made.

In 1972, the United States and the Soviet Union entered into a biological agreement that would signal the death knell for the Black Population. The 1972 agreement for collaboration and cooperation in the development of offensive biological agents is still U. S. policy.

In 1973, we find that world scientist, Garth Nicolson reports on his project, ?Role of the Cell Surface in Escape From Immunological Surveillance.? His report is accompanied by seven published papers. Dr. Nicolson worked in conjunction with the Special Virus program from 1972 until 1978. Dr. Nicolson is considered by some to be Dr. Gallo?s ?West Coast? counterpart. It is strongly held that because of Dr. Nicolson, Dr. Robert Gallo and Dr. Luc Montagnier would secretly meet in Southern California to coordinate what they would and would not say about the special virus development program.

In 1974, Furher Henry Kissinger releases his NSSM-200 (U.S. Plan to Address Overpopulation). It is the only issue of discussion at the World Population Conference in Bucharest, Romania.  The men in the shadows had won, the whole world agrees to secretly cull Africa?s population. Today it is Africa and other undesirables. Tomorrow it may be you.

In 1975, President Gerald Ford signs National Security Defense Memorandum #314. The United States implements the Kissinger NSSM-200.

In 1976, the United States issues Progress Report #13 of the Special Virus program. The report proves the United States had various international agreements with the Russians, Germans, British, French, Canadians and Japanese. The plot to kill Black people has wide international support. In March, the Special Virus began production of the AIDS virus, by June 1977, the program will have produced 15,000 gallons of AIDS. President Jimmy Carter allows for the continuation of the secret plan to cull the Black Population.

In 1977, Dr. Robert Gallo and the top Soviet Scientists meet to discuss the proliferation of the 15,000 gallons of AIDS. They attach AIDS as complement to the Small pox vaccine for Africa, and the ?experimental? hepatitis B vaccine for Manhattan. According to authors June Goodfield and Alan Cantwell, it is Batch #751 that was administered in New York to thousands of innocent people. This government will never be able to repay the people for the social rape, humiliation and out right prejudice people with HIV/AIDS face on a daily basis. The men in the shadows of the AIDS curtain accurately calculated that you would not care if only Blacks and gays are dying. In fact you don?t care that nearly a half million Gulf War veterans are encumbered with something contagious. Soon there will be no more Black people and a confused military, older White people will start suddenly dying and you still won?t get it. Be here now for us, give us a chance to be there for you.

Suddenly, just as President Nixon had predicted, there was explosive death. On November 4, 1999, the U.S. White House announced,.... ?Within a period as short as five years, all new infections of HIV in the United States will be African American....? At some point our experts must be allowed to begin the interface process of allowing the history of this virus program to count. It is ludicrous and preposterous to fail to review the U.S. virus program in which to elucidate the etiology of AIDS.

More of the history of the secret virus program can be found in the archives of Dr. John B. Moloney. A review of the files under Dr. Moloney?s name would further pinpoint additional dates and records consistent with one of the greatest hunts, capture and proliferation of disease in the history of the human race. We have found the missing link. It is the guts of the research logic of a federal program that seeks to kill. We have found a curtain of AIDS. We can identify some of the people who work in the shadows of the curtain. Dr. Robert Gallo and Dr. Garth Nicolson must lead us in review. In light of the attack mechanisms available in which to inhibit AIDS, it is time that not another person be stricken with this relic, synthetic mycoplasma chimera.

Help those of us who are still here to realize full and contributory lives. We are all one people.

On September 28, 1998 I filed suit against the United States for the ?creation?, ?production? and ?proliferation? of AIDS. On November 7, 2000, the appeals court agreed with the lower court and held AIDS bioengineering as ?frivolous.? The world continues to wait for the court to rule on the resubmitted issues. The court can not continue to simply brush aside our experts and the government?s flowchart.

I have been asked to give my perspective with regard to the federal program MK-NAOMI . MK-NAOMI is the code for the development of AIDS. The ?MK? portion stands for the two co-authors of the AIDS virus, Robert Manaker and Paul Kotin. The ?NAOMI? portion stands for ?Negroes are Only Momentary Individuals.? The U.S. government continues to orchestrate silence from the very top echelons of the Congress and military. At present there is no accountability. The good people will ultimately create a tsunami of public outrage. We can not allow the state an autocratic right to govern outside of the Constitution. Our society is structured to hide crimes committed by the state, while punishing citizens for minor indiscretions. Their strategy focuses on the general confusion they can create via manipulation of the media. They are very good at what they do. We must become more focused in our continued presentation of the flowchart. The flowchart is the absolute missing link in proving the existence of a coordinated research program to develop a cancer virus that depletes the immune system. New diseases do not create old illnesses.

This compilation of court documents and correspondence is the true effort of one man?s achievement in solving the mystery of the origin of AIDS. We have found the origin of AIDS, it is us.
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Is there a conspircy theory that you dont believe?


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if you came wit information to back up why you think this is a conspiracy theory or diffute these 'facts' then I'd be quite amazed, yes I would
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if you came wit information to back up why you think this is a conspiracy theory or diffute these 'facts' then I'd be quite amazed, yes I would


Go to scienceblogs.com type in HIV in the search box and you will find i dont know about 1000 on nonsense hiv/aids bullshit like this getting debunked. Let me guess you also believe that immunizations cause autism, 911 was brought down by george bush, the joooos control the world, big foot is real, etc


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how do you dispute that Aids is man made? thats some simple shit... :naswtf:


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its got a moment of random semi-racism on there but still

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Some say that HIV is a 'conspiracy theory' or that it is 'man-made'. A recent survey carried out in the US for example, identified a significant number of African Americans who believe HIV was manufactured as part of a biological warfare programme, designed to wipe out large numbers of black and homosexual people.7 Many say this was done under the auspices of the US federal 'Special Cancer Virus Program' (SCVP), possibly with the help of the CIA. Some even believe that the virus was spread (either deliberately or inadvertently) to thousands of people all over the world through the smallpox inoculation programme, or to gay men through Hepatitis B vaccine trials. While none of these theories can be definitively disproved, the evidence they are based on is tenuous at best, and often ignores the clear link between SIV and HIV, or the fact that the virus has been identified in people as far back as 1959. They also fail to take into consideration the lack of genetic-engineering technology available to 'create' the virus at the time that AIDS first appeared.


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if you came wit information to back up why you think this is a conspiracy theory or diffute these 'facts' then I'd be quite amazed, yes I would


Go to scienceblogs.com type in HIV in the search box and you will find i dont know about 1000 on nonsense hiv/aids bullshit like this getting debunked. Let me guess you also believe that immunizations cause autism, 911 was brought down by george bush, the joooos control the world, big foot is real, etc


I'll check that blog, but once again you haven't come up wit any 'facts' that dispute the 'facts' an 'events' I've talked about above

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I've got the 'Special Cancer Virus Program' logic flowchart from 1971, this whole so called conspiracy is very real, truss me on that
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The flowchart is being sold by Dr. Boyd Graves for $7 a download. Pay now with PayPal! A range of CDs, books and posters also available at low, low prices!

Interestingly, the domain name of his website is registered to the guy that owned mrr2001.com, which contained such wonderful articles as "royal wedding mind control!", "y2k panic ready to grip nation" and "NOAH group form to save world from evil floods". Same person perhaps? Who knows, but it doesn't really add much credibility to his claims, and neither does that "huge leaps of faith required" time line you posted.


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I'm sure that there were plenty who would've thought that small pox infested blankets was a conspiracy theroy as well.


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I'm sure that there were plenty who would've thought that small pox infested blankets was a conspiracy theroy as well.


Excellent comparison.


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I'm sure that there were plenty who would've thought that small pox infested blankets was a conspiracy theroy as well.

Did people really understand the way that germs spread disease in the mid 18th century?


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how do you dispute that Aids is man made? thats some simple shit... :naswtf:



actually aids was passed to humans from simian blood(most likely chimps, which bare an almost exact genetic code to us) by hunting them and getting their blood on us, the virus just managed to mutate during this century, there actually have been documented cases as far back as the 50's of humans with HIV, and there are cases of simians dating even further back with the monkey-equivalent

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actually aids was passed to humans from simian blood(most likely chimps, which bare an almost exact genetic code to us) by hunting them and getting their blood on us, the virus just managed to mutate during this century
whoa, that makes no sense!

so some people hunted apes and got their blood on them, this blood mutated itself into a horrible sex-disease?

lets say i go drink some monkey blood, will that give me aids? or does it have to mutate during a century?

can i come up with a theory too then? aids stems from the purple bullfrog that lives in mexico, some dirty mexicans interbred with reptiles without cleaning their genitals... when penis-crust, semen and frog blood mix it creates a hyperbole of biomolecular protoplasmic retranslation of RNA to DNA, when this fusion goes wrong deoxyriboniucleicacids become defroggyacid which "mutates" the blood and causes AIDS!

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The flowchart is being sold by Dr. Boyd Graves for $7 a download. Pay now with PayPal! A range of CDs, books and posters also available at low, low prices!

Interestingly, the domain name of his website is registered to the guy that owned mrr2001.com, which contained such wonderful articles as "royal wedding mind control!", "y2k panic ready to grip nation" and "NOAH group form to save world from evil floods". Same person perhaps? Who knows, but it doesn't really add much credibility to his claims, and neither does that "huge leaps of faith required" time line you posted.


I don't know who the domain name belongs to, but I do keep incontact wit Dr Boyd Grave, an his site has been tampered wit by the US goverment, they have shut him down financially after he took the US to court over the creation of AIDS, an he only gets by at the moment by donations an other type of stuff

an the timeline is 'documented' stuff, opions are all valid an that, true stories, but most skeptics can't come wit any 'documented facts' to diffuse them, or shut em down, flop the movement, they just come wit 'opions' from the way people have been programmed by society to stay in a box, an not think outside it, which is cool, its all good, its a free world an that, an thats true stories

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I'm not being funny or nuthin, but that theory is absouletly ridiculous, people have been living wit chimps for centuries, if you understand the disease AIDS, then you would know that if that was true, the world population would have been wiped out a long fucking time ago, AIDS is a serious fucking disease, CIA sponsored US medical intitutions were planting the simian(monkey) version of AIDS in chimps in the 50's, I'll come wit the names of the intitutions later

the one thing that most skeptics or the US goverment can't explain is if the AIDS virus is so fucking natural, an evolved from monkeys to humans, an monkeys carried the disease for centuries an so on an so on, why has the 'natural' AIDS virus have a 'man made(by the nazi's in the late 20's an early 30s)' sheep disease called visna in it, why has AIDS got the 'man made' visna sequencing in the AIDS dna, people just can't seem to explain that, an the establishment science community don't seem to touch on that neither, thats some funny shit to me, serious bizness
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I'm not being funny or nuthin, but that theory is absouletly ridiculous, people have been living wit chimps for centuries, if you understand the disease AIDS, then you would know that if that was true, the world population would have been wiped out a long fucking time ago


their habitat wasn't shrinking at the rate it is centuries ago


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ok, but whats the habitat got to do wit a human being, who has been living in villages in the remotermest places in Africa for centuries, amongst chimps, whats the habitat got to do wit a human being hunting an having blood on themselves getting comtaminated wit the AIDS virus, if thats the theory

the point is again, why is there a 'man made' sheep virus in the dna of the AIDS virus
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ok, but whats the habitat got to do wit a human being, who has been living in villages in the remotermest places in Africa for centuries, amongst chimps, whats the habitat got to do wit a human being hunting an having blood on themselves getting comtaminated wit the AIDS virus, if thats the theory

the point is again, why is there a 'man made' sheep virus in the dna of the AIDS virus


the point is there will be increased interaction when there is shrinking habitat. Also chimps in the wild aren't just like "yo hold up im gunna go chill with theses humans right quick". They're just like most animals in the wild and don't want anything to do with humans and avoid us if at all possible. Not to mention that wild chimps are some mean SOB's and will fuck a human up if they feel they are violating their territory or find them threatening in any way. Yes humans and chimpanzees lived in the same areas but shirking habitat would forcer more interaction between the two species.

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This thread has AIDS, which paradoxically validates its premise.

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I don't know who the domain name belongs to, but I do keep incontact wit Dr Boyd Grave, an his site has been tampered wit by the US goverment, they have shut him down financially after he took the US to court over the creation of AIDS, an he only gets by at the moment by donations an other type of stuff

Here's the domain registration info for boydgraves.com: -

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www.mrr2001.com being the crazy site I was talking about. Joel Bales is mentioned quite a few times on Graves's site.

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This podcast series follows the judicial activism and work of international human rights activist, Dr. Boyd E. Graves. Dr. Boyd Graves is the lead plaintiff for the People in the legal case(s) against the formerly secret U.S. Special Virus Program and the evidence of the laboratory birth of AIDS. For over 15 years, Dr. Graves has researched HIV/AIDS and provides a startling reality of this disease.

Author: Joel Bales

Personally, if I had found some real evidence that AIDs was created by the government to try and wipe out gays or black people, I wouldn't link up with a person that owned a site talking about the Royal family being lizards and the "NOAH group" saving the world from evil floods. I'd want to distance myself from people like that, unless of course, I was one of those people myself.

But, ignoring all that and looking at the time line, a lot of it is padding. That's why I said it requires leaps of faith to link the whole lot into one huge conspiracy to murder millions of people.

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Dr. Len Hayflick sets up a U.S. mycoplasma laboratory at Stanford University.

He did just that, except his research led to the creation of WI-38, which is used in vaccines for polio, rubella and all kinds of disease.

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Dr. Robert Gallo was secretly working on the development of AIDS with full support of the sector of the U.S. government that seeks to kill its citizens

Robert Gallo was part of the team that came up with the test that enables us to detect HIV in blood, without which, many more people would have died.

Take away the irrelevant, the statements made without any proof, the factually incorrect, and so on, and there's not really much left.


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actually aids was passed to humans from simian blood(most likely chimps, which bare an almost exact genetic code to us) by hunting them and getting their blood on us, the virus just managed to mutate during this century
whoa, that makes no sense!

so some people hunted apes and got their blood on them, this blood mutated itself into a horrible sex-disease?

lets say i go drink some monkey blood, will that give me aids? or does it have to mutate during a century?

can i come up with a theory too then? aids stems from the purple bullfrog that lives in mexico, some dirty mexicans interbred with reptiles without cleaning their genitals... when penis-crust, semen and frog blood mix it creates a hyperbole of biomolecular protoplasmic retranslation of RNA to DNA, when this fusion goes wrong deoxyriboniucleicacids become defroggyacid which "mutates" the blood and causes AIDS!

who belives me?




it always was a blood infection, SIV is the simian equivalent, it just became transferrable in humans recently, the fact that it has been documented as having a simian equivalent seems to raise the possibility of interspecies transfer


like I said, there have been documented cases as far back as the 50's and documented unnofficial cases as far back as the 1930's, I don't believe our government had the advanced biogenetic research to create the aids virus at the turn of the century, although a case can be made that pharmacutical companies are withholding cures due to profit incentives.


and Si don't know if aids is transferrable through digestion, I would think it has to do with cuts on the human body exposed to chimps blood

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I'm not being funny or nuthin, but that theory is absouletly ridiculous, people have been living wit chimps for centuries, if you understand the disease AIDS, then you would know that if that was true, the world population would have been wiped out a long fucking time ago


their habitat wasn't shrinking at the rate it is centuries ago



exactly, with increased profit incentives the hunting industry became much larger this century, and also who's to say a virus doesn't become lethal to man possibly during the last 60 years? the Avian Flu has become much more widespread among birds as of just recently

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You forgot to mention that aliens gave the government the tools to create this virus.

AIDS / AREA 51.

Coincidence?

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I don't know who the domain name belongs to, but I do keep incontact wit Dr Boyd Grave, an his site has been tampered wit by the US goverment, they have shut him down financially after he took the US to court over the creation of AIDS, an he only gets by at the moment by donations an other type of stuff

Here's the domain registration info for boydgraves.com: -

Bales, Joel **
newsdesk@MRR2001.COM
PO BOX 332
ABILENE, KS 67410-0332
US
Phone: 785-263-1871
Fax: 785-263-1871

www.mrr2001.com being the crazy site I was talking about. Joel Bales is mentioned quite a few times on Graves's site.

Then there's stuff like this: -
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This podcast series follows the judicial activism and work of international human rights activist, Dr. Boyd E. Graves. Dr. Boyd Graves is the lead plaintiff for the People in the legal case(s) against the formerly secret U.S. Special Virus Program and the evidence of the laboratory birth of AIDS. For over 15 years, Dr. Graves has researched HIV/AIDS and provides a startling reality of this disease.

Author: Joel Bales

Personally, if I had found some real evidence that AIDs was created by the government to try and wipe out gays or black people, I wouldn't link up with a person that owned a site talking about the Royal family being lizards and the "NOAH group" saving the world from evil floods. I'd want to distance myself from people like that, unless of course, I was one of those people myself.

But, ignoring all that and looking at the time line, a lot of it is padding. That's why I said it requires leaps of faith to link the whole lot into one huge conspiracy to murder millions of people.

Quote:
Dr. Len Hayflick sets up a U.S. mycoplasma laboratory at Stanford University.

He did just that, except his research led to the creation of WI-38, which is used in vaccines for polio, rubella and all kinds of disease.

Quote:
Dr. Robert Gallo was secretly working on the development of AIDS with full support of the sector of the U.S. government that seeks to kill its citizens

Robert Gallo was part of the team that came up with the test that enables us to detect HIV in blood, without which, many more people would have died.

Take away the irrelevant, the statements made without any proof, the factually incorrect, and so on, and there's not really much left.[/quote

It dosen't really matter who owns the domain, it dosen't really matter that if the domain owner is a fruitcake, or as sane as whoever, I'll ask Dr.Boyd why he chose that particular domain to put his website on, but I'm guessing most mainstream people in western society have been brought up in a way, subliminary, an on an open level, by the mainstream western establishment, to think inside the box, an if you diviate from the systems line, or mainstream views, your considered a 'fruitcake', or 'conspiracy theorist', sometimes true, sometimes not, the point is, when people live comfortably, kids, a nice house, nice job, most mainstream people don't won't to rock the boat, or believe there goverments would do certain crazy things, its just too much for there programmed brains to take or handle, I'm guessing Dr.Boyd couldn't get a mainstream website to take up his website, after he took the US goverment to court for the creation of AIDS, thats what I'm guessing, but it really dosen't matter

what does matter is Robert Gallo was a 'case officer' on the 'US Special Cancer Virus Program', it says so in the 'US Special Cancer Virus Program' 'progress reports', theirs 15 of them covering the period from 1962 to 1978, they have all been obtained from 'publc librarys', there 'US goverment documents', along wit the 'US Special Cancer Program logic flowchart' they all outline the 'US goverments' determination to fuck around wit animals viruses, an put em into the human genome, an create a virus an field test it, there is nothing in this program about finding a cure for cancer

In 1969 the 'US military' at Ft.Detrick(the military biological division) in Maryland knew they could create a AIDS type virus, an they went to congress to ask for funding, 'US congress report House Resoulution 15090, part V5 finding, page 129, Synthetic Biological agent' outlines this request, I have this document in my possession, a Mr.MacArthur asks congress for funding, $10million for a virus that "the human immulogical system has know known natural immunity to" thats a quote

these mainstream medical establishment still won't talk on why this 'natural' AIDS virus has an 'man made' sheep virus called 'Visna' in it, even that dickhead Robert Gallo admitted 'AIDS evolve from Visna', check the Science journal, Vol 227, pp. 173 - 177, January, 1985, 'fact'

why does the 'US goverment' continue to harass Dr.Boyd Graves if this is all kosher, like boy dem(police) beating him up in San Diego in 2003 an injecting him wit sumthin, just outside the courthouse he had just been to for taking the US goverment to for the creation of AIDS, its documented in numerous underground news websites, 'fact', I'll try post a link I've got later

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Certain Africans tribes have been intermingling an hunting Chimps in Africa for centuries, the habitat shrinking bizness an a simian virus(man made) jumping species all of a sudden in the 20th century from habitat shrinking theory is simply ridiculous, if you know anything about these type of viruses, you would know its damn near impossible an rare for an monkey virus to jump to the human species, an if it did, it would have happened long time ago, huge cities an towns were only mostly built in Africa in the 20th century, Africans tribes have been living within close proximity wit chimps for centuries, 'fact', if that whole shrinking habitat 'theory' was true, the human race would have been wiped out a long time ago, this whole theory is ridiculous, an not being funny or nuthin, but fucking stupid

people need to explain why there is a'man made' Visna virus in the AIDS dna, true stories, fuck the system, lets go
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