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The Godfather Kool Herc...
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Kool Herc...birth name Clive Campbell moved to the Bronx , NY from Jamaica in 1967 at the age of 12 . 6 years later in 1973 he was asked by his sister to Dj a birthday party at a spot called the Twilight Zone . This was his first jam . Herc is the man who took the Jamaican art of toasting......talking in rhyme over the instrumental parts of a record , and made it a main stay in the Bronx . He was known for having the biggest mobile sound system in New York . He would take a hot jam like James Browns " Give it up or turn it loose " and summon the crowd to " Hip Hop and don't stop " ...things of that nature. Herc was amongst the first (after Pete Dj Jones) to take two copies of a record and manipulate them , so that the drum breakdown played continuously .Along with Klark Kent ,Coke La Rock and Timmy Tim (the Herculords) Herc rocked spots like the PAL ,Celeb Club, Stardust Ballroom , Hoe Ave Boys Club , Harlem World and Black Door. He is part of the Hip Hop holy trinity - which includes Bambaataa and Flash . His voice has been on record only once , on Terminator Xs "Godfathers Of Threatt " Lp . Herc had a small part playing himself in the movie Beat Street . He can be seen on the cover of the Executioners new Lp "Built From Scratch" with D.ST & Theodore .
Afrika Bambaataa is to Hip Hop what George Clinton is to Funk. He formed many different crews.Perhaps the best known of these crews is the Soul Sonic Force....because of Planet Rock . But Bam formed Cosmic Force , Shango , Time Zone , Jazzy 5 , Hydraulic Funk , Funk Queens and many many more . Originally Bam was a member of the Black Spades....a Ny gang , in the 70s. ...After reading about Afrikan culture , Bam (also a Dj with a taste for strange records to set off parties) , started the Universal Zulu Nation . This organization took ancient Afrikan principles and merged them with Hip Hop culture . Bam suggested that instead of killing each other with guns and knives , that members use their skills as Djs , Break Dancers , Emcees and Graf artists to battle each other . The idea caught on and most crews in the 70s and 80s were affiliated with the " Zulu Gestapo " .
As a Dj Bam use to mix some pretty wild things together . He would take themes from tv shows like the munsters and mix them with funk , soul , reggae and soca records . He certainly brought a universal mixture of music to the party scene . In 1982 , after putting out the Jazzy 5s " Jazzy Sensation " - Bam dropped the ultimate bomb..still heavily felt today . Bam mixed sounds simular to Kraftwerks " Transeurope Express " with a futuristic beat and rhymes from Mr Biggs , Pow Wow and Emcee G.L.O.B.E . The result was " Planet Rock " - the song that RULED the summer of 82 and made everyone want to be a popper/breaker . This song still a party starter today gave birth to Miami bass music , Electronica , Breakbeat , jungle and many other forms of music
The follow up to Planet Rock was " Looking for the perfect beat " . This too was a classic , followed by " Renegades Of Funk " which solidified their position as masters of the beats . A collab with Shango " Frantic Situation " from the Beat Street soundtrack was not as well recieved but did well . Bam is one 3rd of what many call Hip hops holy trinity...Bam , Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash . ...no doubt one of , if not thee most important figures in Hip Hop.
This pioneer started his illustrious career playing in the streets of the Bronx, under the guidance of Afrika Bambaataa. During the 80's club revolution, Jazzy went from performing on the streets and in small clubs to spinning records in NYC's hottest clubs: Negril, the Roxy, the Ritz, and Danceteria.
He was one of the first to bring Hip Hop music to the airwaves, on KISS FM. Jazzy's three hour show became so popular that it was syndicated on Europe's Radio One broadcast.
With the Jazzy 5, he recorded the hit single: "Jazzy Sensation". He was propelled to stardom when he co-produced the seminal hit "Planet Rock" with Bambaataa and The Soul Sonic Force.
Not only having appeared on the movie's soundtrack, Jazzy Jay also played the role of club DJ in the Hip Hop classic: "Beat Street".
Afrika Islam and Jazzy Jay pioneered the first DJ team routines as they used to team up to battle GrandMaster Flash (solo) and GrandWizzard Theodore (solo).
Jazzy Jay was also one of the Zulu King dancers in the early 70's.
Jazzy Jay was essentially a founder of Def Jam records along with Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons. He appeared on T La Rock's "It's Yours". While with Def Jam, Jazzy worked with such artists as LL Cool J, the Beastie Boys, and Public Enemy. Jazzy Jay also put out the 3rd Def Jam 12" in 1985 called "Def Jam" b/w "Cold Chillin' In The Spot" with Russell Simmons on vocals.
Jazzy Jay was Busy Bee's DJ on his his 1st LP having produced the monumental "Suicide" in 1987.
He was also signed to Cutting Records and recorded two 12"s with an emcee named Seville called "Take a Walk" in 1987 and "Make it Funky" in 1988. (Seville also had one or two other hits with King Shameek.)
Jazzy furthered his producing and engineering skills when he founded Jazzy Jay's Studio, providing a place where Fat Joe, Brand Nubian, A Tribe Called Quest, among others could begin their careers. Jazzy began a new label with Rocky Bucano- Strong City records was born. Strong City produced a multitude of hits with Ice Cream Tee, the Masters of Ceremony, Busy Bee, and Don Baron.
Jazzy was inducted into the Technics DJ Hall of Fame in 2000. Jazzy Jay is also featured in the DJ documentary "Scratch" which recently premiered at the 2001 Sundance Film Festival. Jazzy enjoys rocking parties internationally as well as explaining Hip Hop history, industry, and politics. Jazzy and GrandWizard Theodore have recently teamed up to appear and DJ at shows together.
DITC producer and MC Diamond D was under Jay's tutelage through his formative years as an up and coming producer.
Grandmaster Flash (born Joseph Saddler on January 1, 1958 in Barbados) is a hip hop musician and DJ; one of the pioneers of hip-hop DJing, cutting, and mixing.
Saddler's family migrated to the United States, and he grew up in the Bronx. He became involved in the earliest New York DJ scene, attending parties set up by early luminaries. Learning from Pete Jones and Kool Herc, he used duplicate copies of a single record and two turntables but added a dextrous manual edit with a mixer to promote the [[break (musiche got the nickname in school due to the fact that he hung around with another guy named Gordon (from Flash Gordon). He also invented the technique initially called cutting, which was developed by Grand Wizard Theodore into scratching (AMG).
Flash played illegal parties and also worked with rappers such as Kurtis Blow and Lovebug Starski. He formed his own group in the late 1970s, after promptings from Ray Chandler. The initial members were Cowboy (Keith Wiggins), Mele Mel (Melvin Glover) and Kid(d) Creole (Nathaniel Glover) making Grandmaster Flash & the 3 MCs. Two other rappers briefly joined, but they were replaced more permanently by Rahiem (Guy Todd Williams, previously in the Funky Four) and Scorpio (Eddie Morris, also used the name Mr. Ness) to create Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five. Soon gaining recognition for their skillful raps, Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five pioneered MCing, freestyle battles, and invented some of the staple phrases in MCing. They performed at Disco Fever in the Bronx beginning in 1978.
Signed to Sugar Hill Records in 1980 by Joe Robinson, they released numerous singles, gaining a gold disc for "Freedom," and also toured. The classic "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel," released in 1981 was the best display of their skills (combing elements of Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust", CHIC's "Good Times" and samples from Blondie's Rapture), but it was their least successful single at the time. The group's most significant hit was "The Message" (1982), which was produced by in-house Sugar Hill producer Clifton "Jiggs" Chase and went platinum in less than a month. In 1983, Flash and Mel released a 12" single, "White Lines," which went on to become one of their signature songs. Flash sued Sugar Hill in 1983 over the non-payment of royalties, and in 1984 the group split between Flash and Mel before disintegrating entirely. Flash, Kid Creole and Rahiem signed to Elektra Records while the others continued as "Grandmaster Mele Mel & the Furious Five." (Mel notably appeared on Chaka Khan's I Feel for You). They reformed in 1987 for a charity concert, to release one album and then fall apart again. There was another reunion, of a kind, in 1994, although Cowboy died in 1989 from a drug overdose due to the effects of his crack cocaine addiction.
Grandmaster Flash continues to DJ clubs and has a Sirius Satellite Radio show on channel 34 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM EST called "The Flash Mash Show". He also has a line of clothing line "G.Phyre", and he has signed a deal with Doubleday to publish his memoirs.
The producer today is more of an artist, states legendary producer Larry Smith, with some disdain. But the real meaning of a producer is someone who brings the best out of an artist. He doesn't make himself the artist. In this day and age I'm just never sure how much the artist actually brings to the table.
Is that a curmudgeonly thing to say? Yes, it is. But hes right, and you know it. He continues, I come from a band era. I'm a bass player by trade, so I get inspired by working with people and listening to them. Then we go to work and make something together.
No one in the hip-hop world has more of a right to talk about the rise of the Super Producer than St. Albans, Queens Lawrence Smith, because he was one of the first. Back when Kurtis Blow laid down Christmas Rappin in 1979, Smith “ a journeyman R&B and jazz bassist at the time was there. And when Run-DMC needed someone to produce their world-shaking 1983 debut single, Its Like That / Sucker MCs, Smith was most definitely there. He and Russell Simmons, who co-produced, were Rush-Groove Productions.
˜Sucker MCs" was just them and a drum machine, he recalls. But if I had had the budget, I would have hired live performers on the whole first Run-DMC album. Russell and I made those early records any way we could. As it turned out, an Oberheim DMX drum machine and Prophet-5 keyboard were all they needed to turn the music world on its ear. It was a crucial transition: from the live band era epitomized by Sugar Hill and Kurtis Blow to the pared-down, electronically-enhanced sounds that would rule the 80s.
Along with the first two groundbreaking Run-DMC albums, Smith had even higher heights to climb with his first solo production, Whodini. The group had other producers for their first self-titled LP in 1983, but Jive Records smartly brought Smith in to do the job right, even if the label didn't know it at first. He remembers, With Escape [from 1984, which eventually went platinum], Jive didn't even want it at first. They wanted the group to sound like Run-DMC, not slick like Whodini really were. But once the records started selling, they didn't mind as much [laughs].
Smith continued a very impressive hip-hop run throughout the 80s, but by the end of the decade he stepped out of the game. When money got more important than loyalty in the business, I started to step away. But the biggest thing was that I just couldn'tt bring myself to sample. As a musician, I just couldn't use something that I didn't create myself.
He adds, with a smirk: Of course, people sample me now, and I don't mind taking their money.
Smith still produces and performs recently with Kurtis Blow's Hip-Hop Church and he also makes music as part of Zoe Ministries in Manhattan (where Reverend Run is a minister). But hes ready to get back into the hip-hop game. My equipment is on, he says, staring wistfully at his board. I'm just waiting for the inspiration, the artist, to make me want to use it. Anyone out there up for the challenge?
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The Juice Crew was a pioneering hip-hop group in the mid to late 1980s founded by producer Marley Marl and his label Cold Chillin Records. Cold Chillin's most push to notoriety was a single entitled The Bridge, which sparked a long time rivalry with Bronx rapper KRS One and Boogie Down Productions. Marl would also produce another rivalry with a young female rapper named Roxanne Shante releasing Roxanne's Revenge in response to a single released by U.T.F.O.. The two battles would soon come to end and the Juice Crew expanded to produce some of the most influential and well known hip-hop artists ever to perform.
The group would establish a foothold on hip-hip in 1988 with their ground-breaking posse cut entitled The Symphony. Afterwards almost every artist on the label would go on to achieve successful solo careers.
Juice Crew Allstars...
Juice Crew:
Marley Marl
Big Daddy Kane MC Shan Kool G Rap Roxanne Shante Craig G Master Ace Biz Markie Tragedy
and the DJ's
Cool V (Biz Markie)
Polo (Kool G Rap)
Mr Cee (Big Daddy Kane)
Steady Pace (Masta Ace)
Defining Albums: 1987-MC Shan-Down By Law
1988-Big Daddy Kane-Long Live The Kane 1988-Marley Marl-In Control Vol 1 1988-Biz Markie-Goin Off 1988-MC Shan-Born To Be Wild 1989-Kool G Rap & Polo-Road To The Riches 1989-Craig G-The Kingpin
1989-Big Daddy Kane-It's A Big Daddy Kane Thing 1989-Roxanne Shante-Bad Sister 1990-Masta Ace-Take A Look Around
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Chief Rocker Busy Bee...
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First coming on the scene in 1977, New York-based MC Busy Bee has worked with many of hip-hop's founding fathers, including Melle Mel, Afrika Bambaataa, and Kool DJ AJ to name a few. Mostly known for his comedic rhymes, Busy originally gained a large following through MC battles in Staten Island, Brooklyn, and New Jersey (he won the New Music Seminar's MC World Supremacy Belt in 1986). In the early '80s Afrika Bambaataa asked Busy to join his Zulu Nation, where the young MC would DJ for Bambaataa's Zulu Nation parties. In 1982 Busy also appeared in the classic hip-hop film Wild Style, playing none other than an MC. In addition to his DJ work with other artists, Busy has also released his own albums on the Brass, Sugarhill, and Strong City labels.
Defining Albums: 1983-Wild Style Soundtrack 1988-Runnin Thangs 1992-Thank God For Busy Bee
Doug E. Fresh And The Get Fresh Crew...
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Doug E. Fresh was born Doug E. Davis in Barbados, and his first appearance came in 1983 on a single on Top Flight Records called "Pass the Boo-Dah" (based on "Pass the Dutchy"), with Spoonie Gee and DJ Spivey. His first solo release came in 1984, with "Just Having Fun," on Soundmakers/Enjoy Records, and "Original Human Beatbox" on Vintertainment. By 1985, Fresh was one of the biggest names in rap music, and his first single for Reality, "The Show/La Di Da Di" became a hip hop classic. It was recorded with the Get Fresh Crew, which included MC Ricky D (only later to gain fame as Slick Rick), along with Barry Bee and Chill Will. His first LP, 1987's "Oh, My God!", featured most of his showpieces, like "Play This Only at Night" and "All the Way to Heaven". His second album, 1988's "The World's Greatest Entertainer", broke into the Billboard charts thanks to another hot single, "Keep Risin' To The Top". He did reunite on a Slick Rick LP, and recorded again in 1995 for Gee Street.
Oh My God (1986)
The Worlds Greatest Entertainer (1988)
Doug E Fresh-Play(1995)
Special Ed...
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In 1989, this 16-year-old Jamican born and Flatbush, Brooklyn bred kid released a technically dazzling debut album that highlighted his rapid-fire delivery and the ace production of hip-hop mastermind Howie "Hitman" Tee,Chubb Rock, Little Shawn, A-Teem, The Real Roxanne,One Little Indian and others)
DJ Premier produced a remix for 1995's 'Freaky Flow'
Ed was just really smooth and it was easy to see why he was a ladies man, he was quite clever with the way he delivered his lyrics too...both his first 2 albums are essential and now a days it's fair to say his music is classic and there really was only one Special Ed his music is still played today and he attempted a comeback last year but it lacked the chemistry that he and producer Hitman 'Howie Tee' had.
DJ Akshun was Ed's DJ and he rhymed a little too and Ed's brother Drew also contributed to some posse cuts.
Originally they were just the Funky Four - Keith Keith , Sha Rock , KK Rockwell and Rahiem (later of Furious 5 fame). In ' 78 Sharock left and Raheim joined the Furious 4 . Lil Rodney C and Jazzy Jeff ( not of Fresh Prince fame ) joined after leaving the Magnificent 7. Sha Rock returned and made the plus one.The crew was originally called the Brothers Disco . The Funky Four are actually another crew that is full of firsts ; for instance the Funky Four plus one were the first mixed gender crew , the first Emcees to perform on Saturday Night Live ( in 80 opening up for Blondie), and first with two djs - Breakout and Baron . In ' 79 they dropped " Rappin And Rockin The House " on Enjoy records.
They signed to Sugarhill records in 1980 and dropped " Thats The Joint " ... a classic by any standards . They lifted an old break from Taste Of Honey and crafted one of the best rap joints ever. Next came " Do you wanna rock ? " , then " Feel It " and after that " King Heroin " . By ' 83 Lil Rodney C and KK Rockwell had left to form Double Trouble.....and they had a few small parts in the movie Wild Style .
Sha Rock joined Lisa Lee from Cosmic Force and formed Us Girls , and they had a small performance in Beat Street. Due to the same politics and lack of industry knowledge that swallowed most first generation rap artists the Funky Four had a shorter career than they should have. Jazzy Jeff sued Jive records in the mid 80s for signing Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff while he was signed with the same name . He won and built a studio with the loot , and is supposed to be bringing out some old school artists. Jazzy Jeff was the first solo artist signed to Jive /Zomba . Sha Rock is married and she has a daughter who Emcees. Funky 4 are indeed an important brick in the foundation of Hip Hop .
For the casual listener of hip hop in the late 80s and early 90s, 3rd Bass was synonymous with Pop Goes the Weasel; the Vanilla Ice bashing song and video. For the serious 3rd Bass fan though, 3rd was much deeper than one song.
MC Serch spent his youth learning the skills of MC'ing and attended the High School of Music and Art where he perfected his skill. In the mid 80's Serch was performing with groups like Gangster 5 and SZ Connection. He then recorded his first solo single "Melissa" in 1986 and followed that up with the single "Hey Boy".
Around the same time Prime Minister Pete Nice was writing rhymes while attending junior high in the neighborhood of South Floral Park. He eventually attended Bishop Ford High School and began playing basketball, although he still was spending his time with hip hop. Pete earned a basketball scholarship to Columbia University in 1985 where he began hosting his own hip hop show with DJ Clark Kent on the campus radio station WKCR.
Pete's radio show lasted until 1988 until it was canceled and he focused his attention on rap. He began working with Richard Lawson (DJ Richie Rich). Through Sam Sever and Dante Ross, Pete and Rich were introduced to MC Serch who ended up working together and forming the group Three the Hard Way. They recorded a couple of songs including Wordz of Wizdom which ended up being included on the Cactus Album. When they were signed to Def Jam they changed their name to 3rd Bass.
In their time, 3rd Bass was one of a small number of white hip-hop artists to achieve wide acceptance in the larger community. Following the Beastie Boys, 3rd Bass proved that white hip-hop wasn't going to become a watered-down, commercial rip-off of the art, as many white interpretations of black music had been in the past. They possessed a well-developed lyrical technique and were respectfully well versed in hip-hop culture and tradition. They helped set the tone for the way white rappers could credibly and intelligently approach the music, and despite staying together for only two albums, they managed to create a highly positive lasting impact.
Their 1989 Def Jam debut The Cactus Album was greeted with enthusiastic reviews. Clever, good-humored singles like "The Gas Face," "Steppin' to the A.M.," and "Brooklyn-Queens" helped make 3rd Bass a name in hip-hop. Matching MC Serch's bombastic, goofy good nature and Prime Minister Pete Nice's gritty, English-trained wordsmith (sounding like a young Don in training), 3rd Bass' debut album is revelatory in its way. For one, it is full of great songs, alternately upbeat rollers, casual-but-sincere disses, razor-sharp street didacticism, and sweaty city anthems, with A-plus production by heavyweights Prince Paul and Bomb Squad, as well as the surprising, overshadowing work of Sam Sever. The duo may not have come from the streets, but their hearts were there, and it shows. The album embodies New York life. The Cactus Album was important because it proved to hip-hop heads that white kids could play without bastardizing the culture. It may not have absolutely integrated rap, but it was a precursor to a culture that became more inclusive and widespread after its arrival.
The 1990 release of The Cactus Revisited was a remix record that overhauled the sound and some lyrics of six tracks and a B-side. Rather than just recycle old material while working on a follow-up, this piece both summarizes and extends the flavor of The Cactus.
In 1991 they followed with Derelicts of Dialect, which contained a viciously funny jab at Vanilla Ice called "Pop Goes the Weasel." Accompanied by an equally humorous video, "Pop Goes the Weasel" became 3rd Bass's biggest chart single. It presented some damage control in hip-hop and prevented 3rd Bass from getting lumped in with Ice, while distancing some of the Caucasian race from the whole phenomenon.
In late 1991, shortly after 3rd Bass had finished recording the song Gladiator for the movie of the same name, Serch decided to leave 3rd Bass. Serch issued his solo album Return of the Product in 1992. The album spun out three single releases; Here it Comes, Back to the Grill and Daze in a Week. Although it was a tight album, it was not as well recieved as his work with 3rd Bass much like Pete's solo work.
While recording his album Serch also produced and executive produced the Zebrahead soundtrack which introduced the world to Nas (Nasty Nas at the time). Nas also appeared on Serch's solo album on the track Back to the Grill. Serch then become an A&R rep for Wild Pitch Records until they folded. Serch went on to be the executive producer on Nas' debut album Illmatic in 1994 which was met with rave reviews. Serch also managed to start his own label, Serchlite Records. Serch also worked on Word Life with O.C. and also worked with Non Phixion.
As for the remaining ex-3rd Bass men, it was back to just Pete and Rich now, who stayed together and ended up recording the album Dust to Dust under the moniker of Prime Minister Pete Nice & Daddy Rich. The album only produced the two singles; Rap Prime Minister & Daddy Rich (Rat Bastard) and Kick the Bobo before fading into obscurity. The album was definitely not poorly produced, considering the talent of the Beatnuts, KMD and Pete & Rich as well. Promotion was the one thing that this project was lacking in serious amounts.
Pete Nice along with Bobbito started their own label Hoppoh Records under the parent company of Columbia. Only two releases were put out before the label was abandoned due to creative differences with Columbia Records. Kurious Jorge's album A Constipated Monkey was released first with Pete and Rich producing the I'm Kurious single as well as Pete Nice being one of the executive producers on board . The second album released was Count Bass D's Pre Life Crisis.
In the mid 90's Pete dropped out of the music business completely and opened a baseball memorabilia store in Cooperstown, NY. He also was the curator for the Chadwick Collection; a traveling exhibit of 19th Century baseball memorabilia. In 2004 we exit Prime Minister Pete Nice the MC and enter Peter J. Nash, the author. Pete has released a book entitled Baseball Legends of Brooklyn's Green-Wood Cemetery and is set to release a second baseball related book entitled Chadwick: Father of Baseball.
Serch on the other hand, put down the microphone on stage and picked up the microphone in a radio station studio. From his days in 3rd Bass doing radio shows for promotion, he forayed into a career in radio by hosting a weekly hip hop show on New York's WKTU-FM (103.5), later moving to Norfolk, Virgina to WBHH-FM (92.1). In late 2002 Serch signed a contract with WJLB-FM (97.9) in Detroit, Michigan and has his own morning show, "Serch in the A.M."
In October of 1998 3rd Bass played at a party for Andy Hilfiger, brother of designer Tommy Hilfiger. Shortly after that event there had been talks of a new album entitled Ichabods Cranium. Unfortunately any reunion and album plans have since been scrapped.
Members:
Microphone Wizard D.L.B
Tito
The Great Peso
The Mighty Mike C
DJ's OC and Crazy Eddie
F4 were the first rap crew signed to a major label....Elektra/Asylum . The Fearless 4s first jam was on Enjoy records..." Its Magic " (1981) was an instant classic , but the follow up - 1982s " Rockin It " was the one to put them on the map . The record was #1 on Frankie Crockers WBLS...a NY station that didnt play much rap before Mr Magic.Rockin It lifted a classic break from Kraftwerk and mixed the magic of Enjoys house band ; for a classic that is still sampled and cut today .
After the brief stay at Enjoy , the Four signed with Elektra and released the " Just Rock " 12" which included "Gotta Turnout" . Just Rock was a redo of Gary Numans pop hit " Cars " . The real bomb was dropped in ' 83 with the " Problems Of The World " Epfo.gif (33303 bytes) . Classic material !!!! The title track was similar in subject to the Message , but not as harsh . It covered subjects like child abuse , stress filled relationships and computers causing layoffs . " Fearless Freestyle " showed off the raw talents of the crew especially frontman D.LB...." Back bone of the team and I will make you scream , versatile as the thing they call ice cream...in a bowl , on a cone , ala mode.... all alone / slow rhymes and funky beats on the microphone " . Easily a contender with today's so called thugs . F - 4000 was a vocorder ( computer voice ) jam produced by Davy DMX ( actually the whole ep was ) . Problems was one of few rap songs at the time that had a video .
After that single they signed to Tuff City and released " Dedication " ...a harmonizing joint dedicated to their fans. In the late 80s they released " After Tonight " on Mercury Records . O.C. and Krazy Eddie had success in the mid 80s with " Masters Of The Scratch " and " Private Lessons " . Peso did some solos as well . The 4 were featured on the Raiders of the lost art lp in the mid 90s . Tito has worked with the Terror Squad and Kool G. Rap.
MC Lyte was one of the first female rappers to point out the sexism and misogyny that often runs rampant in hip-hop, often taking the subject head on lyrically in her songs and helping open the door for such future artists as Queen Latifah and Missy Elliott. Born and raised in Brooklyn, NY, Lyte began rhyming at the age of 12, which eventually led to a single, "I Cram to Understand U," which led to a recording contract with the First Priority label. MC Lyte's debut full-length, Lyte As a Rock, surfaced in 1988, while a follow-up, Eyes on This, followed a year later. Both discs are considered to be the finest of the rapper's career, especially her sophomore effort, which spawned the hit single "Cha Cha Cha" (peaking at number one on the rap charts) and the anti-violence track "Cappucino." Lyte turned to Bell Biv DeVoe's writers and producers Wolf & Epic for her third release overall, 1991's Act Like You Know, a more soul music-based work than its predecessors and in 1993, issued Ain't No Other (the album's popular single, "Ruffneck," earned a Grammy nomination for Best Rap Single and turned out to be the first gold single ever achieved by a female rap artist).
By the mid-'90s, Lyte had relocated to a new record label, Elektra/Asylum, issuing such further releases as 1996's Bad As I Wanna B, which featured a duet with Missy Elliott on the track "Cold Rock a Party," and 1998's Seven & Seven, which included further guest appearances by Elliott, as well as Giovanni Salah and LL Cool J, the latter of which produced the track "Play Girls Play." In addition to her own albums, MC Lyte has teamed with other artists from time to time, including Atlanta's Xscape on the Soul Train Award-winning "Keep on Keepin' On" (a track that also appeared on the Sunset Park soundtrack and became Lyte's second gold single), and has tried acting, appearing on several TV shows, including such comedies as Moesha and In the House, plus the crime drama New York Undercover. Lyte has also put aside time to become active in several social projects/organizations, including anti-violence campaigns, Rock the Vote, and AIDS benefits. In 2001, Rhino Records issued the 16-track career overview The Very Best of MC Lyte. Lyte then mounted a comeback in 2003 with Da Undaground Heat, Vol. 1.
One of the first rap groups to use a live band, Brooklyn's Stetsasonic formed in 1981 and were also among the first to promote a positive black consciousness that found its ultimate expression in the so-called daisy-age sounds of De La Soul and the Jungle Brothers. The group consisted of DJs "Prince Paul" Huston and Leonard "Wise" Roman, keyboardist/drummer/DJ Marvin "DBC" Nemley, and rappers Glenn "Daddy O" Bolton, Martin "Delite" Wright, and Bobby "Frukwan" Simmons. Daddy O and Delite founded the group as the Stetson Brothers, after the hat company, and began performing in New York hip-hop clubs, picking up other members along the way. Their debut, On Fire, was released in 1986, but it was the follow-up, In Full Gear, that brought them critical acclaim and an R&B hit, "Sally." 1991's Blood, Sweat & No Tears was considered by many to be their best and most diverse album, but Daddy O decided that they had run out of ideas and broke up the band. He went on to work with Mary J. Blige, Queen Latifah, Big Daddy Kane, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers as a producer and remixer. Meanwhile, Prince Paul had already established himself as a producer for his work with De La Soul and Fine Young Cannibals, and later worked with Frukwan in the Gravediggaz.
Formed in Harlem in 1977 by a group of high school pals, they began giving performances at neighborhood playgrounds.
Mike C worked in a recording studio and invited the crew down there. They wrote rhymes on the way there and the song turned into the hip hop classic "High Powered Rap." They pressed the records themselves and sold them out of their trunks right to their fans.
Someone of Sugar Hill Records heard the song and gave it to Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five to perform. This caused a bit of a feud between the two groups for a time.
Eventually the Crash Crew signed on to Sugar Hill Records and recorded several tracks.
EK Mike C lives in NY and drives transit buses. Barry works as a security guard at the Nation's Capitol. La Shubee is the assistant director at NYU food services. [/quote]
The thing with Old School Hip Hop is that unless you heard it when it first came out it can sound foriegn and dated . Not so with legendary Crash Crew . The Crash Crew are Dj Daryll C ( R.I.P ) , G Man , La Shubee , Barry Bistro , Ek Mike C and Reggie Reg . Every man held his own in the Crash and there was no leader or frontman . The Crash Crew also used a lot of harmonizing in their routines . This Crew met at a talent show in 77 . In 80 they pressed up their own single on Mike & Dave records called " Hi Powered Rap " . They sold this single out of the trunk and solidified their spot as a force to rekon with. On this single they went by the name Force Of The 5 Mcs .
That single caused a little beef with the Furious 5 because the single " Freedom " used the same break .." Get Up and Dance " . In 1980 the crew signed to Sugarhill records and dropped " We Wanna Rock " . Later came " We are Known As Emcees " , " On The Radio " , " Breaking Bells " and " Here We Are " . Breaking Bells was their best work and could easily contend with any of the trash out today .Breaking Bells combined the trademark harmonizing , doperhymes and a replayed Bob James " Take Me To Mardis Gras " break . As with most old school groups , the Crash were taken advantage of , and still dont own the rights to any of their works . Sadly Dj Daryll C died in 1999 of cancer . Before he passed ; the Crash Crew released " The Real Hip Hop / Champagne Flights " in 96 . This was actually a solid release for a crew that has been performing as long as Crash Crew . It was a little too gangster - which is a big mistake that many old schoolers make when trying to comeback . Along with Furious 5 and Cold Crush , Crash Crew was untouched .
Grand Wizard Theodore (Theodore Livingston)
Waterbed Kev (Kevin Strong)
Master Rob (Robin Strong)
Dot-A-Rock (Darryl Mason)
Prince Whipper Whip (James Whipper)
Ruby Dee (Rubin Garcia)
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In Grandmaster Flashes early days, his partner was "Mean Gene" Livingston. Gene had a younger brother (who together were known as the L Brothers) that used to practice with Flash named Theodore. Grand Wizard Theodore not only had Flash as a mentor at age 13, he is also often credited with the invention of scratching. He also created the needle drop, a technique widely used.
In 1978, Whipper Whip and Dot-a-Rock were in a group called The Mighty Gestapo Crew (with DJ Kenny B and Count D) and the Funky Phase Four MC's. They battled a crew called The Notorious 2 (who's members included Grandmaster Caz and JDL of the Cold Crush Brothers) at the Intersession Church on 155th Street and Broadway.
Whipper Whip and Dot-A-Rock were also original members of the Cold Crush Bros.
They are often referred to as the Fantastic Freaks or Fantastic Romantic 5.
They battled many crews of the time most notably the Cold Crush Brothers.
They put out the 12" "Can I Get A Soul Clap" in 1980 which is still currently available on Tuff City Records.
The group never recorded an album, however, they do appear in the film "Wild Style" and on the recently released battle tape against Cold Crush at Harlem World in 1981.
The Treacherous Three (Special K, LA Sunshine,Kool Moe Dee).
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Pioneering old school hip-hop group from Harlem, formed in 1978, consisting of Kool Moe Dee, LA Sunshine, and Special K alongside DJ Easy Lee.
Their first single, The New Rap Language, set a new high water mark in rhyming with its complex fast rap style. The group released a variety of singles on Enjoy and later Sugarhill Records before disbanding.
They reformed in 1993 for a one off album, 'Old School Flava'.
Kool Moe Dee was born on August 8, 1963 as Mohandes Dewese. His early career began with his work with The Treacherous Three. After leaving the group he attended college in NY and received a degree in communications. He was also involved in one of the most infamous battles in history against Busy Bee. Kool Moe Dee kick started his solo career while he was still signed to Sugar Hill with T3, releasing the single "Turn It Up" and lending his writing talents the Sugar Hill Gang's single "The Down Beat" (he also recorded his own version). Both singles were released in 1985. Once he decided to reenter the hip hop scene full time on his own he enlisted the help of an unknown producer named Teddy Riley. The first single was "Go See the Doctor" and it made them both famous. By 1986 he had signed to Jive and released his first solo album. In 1987, with the release of his next album "How Ya Like Me Now" and the single of the same name, Moe Dee moved into one of the most highlighted portions of his career. He took on LL Cool J in a war of words. LL fired back with "Jack the Ripper." Moe Dee returned with "Let's Go." LL countered with "To The Break of Dawn." And Moe Dee finished up with "Death Blow". He became the first rapper to ever perform on the Grammy Awards. He also participated in The Stop The Violence Movement single "Self Destruction." In addition, he was part of the Quincy Jones project, "Back on the Block".He has continued to release albums into the 90's without much success with the exception of his greatest hits collections.
Boogie Down Productions originally had core members: KRS-One, DJ Scott La Rock,(RIP) D-Nice
D-Nice, D-Square, Harmony Kenny Parker, , Ms. Melodie, Red Alert, Sidney Mills, Willie D
Boogie Down Productions was originally composed of KRS One, D Nice, and DJ Scott La Rock. The latter got shot after the release of BDP's debut album Criminal Minded in 1987, at about the same time when Ice T and NWA released their debut albums.
While Criminal Minded was basically about sex and crime, BDP radically changed after Scott's death, becoming the most popular conscious rap group besides Public Enemy. BDP pioneered the fusion of Raggamuffin and hip hop music.
The membership of BDP changed continuously throughout its existence, the only constant being KRS One. BDP members and collaborators included Mad Lion, Channel Live, Run, Keith Murray, McBoo, Ms. Melodie, Scottie Morris, Willie D., Robocop, Harmony, DJ Red Alert, DJ Jazzy Jay Kramer, D-Square, Rebekah, and Sidney Mills. BDP as group essentially ended because KRS One began recording and performing under his own name, rather than the group name.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: The Original Hit Squad...
The focus is on the original Hit Squad line up circa 1990-1993 and later onto PMD's Hit Squad...
Erick Sermon
made his debut recording on EPMD-Knick Knack Paddy Wack (1989)
Redman made his debut recording on EPMD-Hardcore (1991)
Das EFX Were signed by Erick & Parrish after they saw them at a Talent Quest.
Tom J and Steve Austin aka The Knucklehedz went to high school with Erick Sermon and were the only white kids in the Hit Squad, they were like the white EPMD and had good flows and amusing rhymes...there debut LP Strickly Savage never saw a proper release as they were dropped from the East West record label after the EPMD fall out.
Between 1990 and 1994 well really 88 and 89 if we count EPMD's first 2 classic albums) these artists bought some of the illest, rugged and unique hip hop albums to the kids.
There is still a Hit Squad to this day but they sadly don't have the same impact that all of these artists did during that era.
*Kieth Murray made his debut recording on Erick Sermon-Hostile (1993) (but was not actually in the Hit Squad only the Def Squad)
After the EPMD split...E took Redman, Kieth Murray and Redman and formed the Def Squad (which also included Jamal from Illegal)...PMD stuck with the Hit Squad banner and took Das EFX with him and introduced...
Zone 7
and later
Defining Albums:
*Redman and Kieth Murray LP's not included as they were Def Squad then, not Hit Squad.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:43 am Post subject: The Rhyme Inspector Percee P...
Everything you need to know about this legend is in this interview from Elemental magazine.
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"Perc is nice, worth the price, every verse entice / one of the most praised men to surface twice on the earth since Christ / ideas I lay are light years away from what's here today / all my peers I slay, stand back, two grand, rip you and your whole crew, man / the true fans know who can bring heat like in the Sudan, black"
BIRTHPLACE: Brooklyn, New York
AGE: 35
AREA YOU REPRESENT: Patterson Projects, South Bronx, New York
GOVERNMENT NAME: John Percy Simon
ORIGIN OF YOUR NAME: Percy is my middle name. My family always called me by my middle name, so I put two 'e's on the end like the old school MCs, like Kool Moe Dee, or Spoonie Gee. I used the Rhyme Inspector as a name because a lot of old-school MCs and DJs use to put titles in front of their names, like Grandmaster Flash or Grand Wizzard Theodore, etc.
YEARS ON THE MIC: I've been emceeing since 1979. I started by watching my uncle and my oldest brother, and all the crews that used to rock at 18 Park in front of my building and the surrounding areas.
WHY YOU MADE HIP-HOP YOUR CAREER: I have a musical family. My mom moved to Pat- terson Projects when I was three years old. I've seen hip-hop from the beginning. Hip-hop was all I knew growing up. I got into it to strongly at the age of 10. 1 like the feeling that the MCs gave the people when they was rockin' in the parks when I was coming up.
YOUR STYLE: Rhythmical - I make flows with words. Graphic - you can visualize what I'm saying. Unorthodox. Wordplay - how I manipulate my words to the beat. I control my words well.
COLLABORATORS: Lord Finesse, J-Dilla, Madlib, Showbiz, Cut Chemist, Godfather Don, Paul Nice, Big Daddy Kane, Aesop Rock, Kool Keith, C-Rayz Walz, Poison Pen, Jurassic 5, WildChild, Medaphoar, Planet Asia, AG, and many more.
DISCOGRAPHY: "Let the Homicides Begin " 12 " (Gotham City Records, 1988) "Respect Costs More Than Money " 12 " (VMax Records, 1996) "Scary Thoughts " 12 " b/w "It's Over " (Makin' Millz Records, 1996) "Everybody " 12 " b/w "Makin Millz " (Makin' Millz Records, 1998) The One And Only. The Best OF Percee P (85 Records) Legendary Status, mix CD (2005)
RECORD LABEL: Stones Throw Records. I signed with them because they are very respected, and they are good people. It's good to have a good relationship with who you're signed with. I feel that they acknowledge and respect me as an artist.
NEW RELEASE: The new album is called Percerverance. I got something for everybody, without me changing who I am. I hope to inspire cats to want to write rhymes and get on their grind. Madlib and J-Dilla are producing, and Cut Chemist will be on the remix. Jurassic 5, Wildchild, Medaphoar, Diamond D, Lord Quas and Prince Poetry will appear. The name of the first single is called "Untitled ". Madlib produced it. It has the boom-bap sound. I'm spittin', coming at you hard, and it has a dope remix.
HOW'S YOUR FREESTYLE: I respect freestyle. In the past freestyle was just bussin' a rhyme. Today it's spittin' spontaneous unwritten verses. I'm more of a writer, old-school.
YOUR TAKE ON HIP-HOP: The best cats I know are not the ones you see on videos. There are some good artists out there that are not being heard. Hip-hop has changed a lot. I think a lot of people in hip-hop today do not know the roots of hip-hop. Hip-hop artists today will steal pioneers hooks and beats, but will not try to collaborate with them or give them acknowledgement.
SOMETHING SURPRISING ABOUT YOURSELF: I listen to a lot of old school slow jams. Groups from the '6Os and the '70s. The Temprees, the Escorts, the Soul Generation, the Lost Gen- eration, the Brighter Shade of Darkness, Linda Jones.
YOUR STRONGEST POINT: I have perseverance. I do not quit.
YOUR WEAKEST POINT: My name is out everywhere, but I need to do shows where my name is. I have fans out there, and I'm not in their city giving them the best of Percee P live.
LAST WORDS: Life is nothing but a classroom. The more experience you get from applying yourself, the better you get as time goes by. For instance, if someone placed you in a karate class at age ten, by the time you're 30 you should have mastered your craft, if you practiced faithfully. That applies to emceeing, DJing, b-boying, graf writing, everything. God blesses those who help themselves.
Defining Albums:
Percee P is working on an album tentatively titled "Perseverance" to be released on Stones Throw. Guest MCs will include Chali 2na, Prince Po, and Aesop Rock. The album will be produced by Madlib.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:44 am Post subject: Captain Rock...
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His real name is Ronnie Green.
Captain Rock was an underground fixture in the early 80's.
Captain Rock was produced by Aleem (Taharqa & Tunde-ra Aleem) on NIA.
He appeared at the UK Fresh Fest 86 where he allegedly striped down to his thong on stage.
Several of his tracks include "Captain Rock to the Future Shock", "House of Rock", and "Cosmic Glide".
Before being Captian Rock he was Dr Jecyll and Mr Hyde's live dj from their period in the Harlem World Crew. He was known as DJ Ronnie Green.
The only record he wrote the lyrics for was "Cosmic Blast"..
The Cosmic Crew didn't exist longer than the time it took to make the record "Cosmic Blast". They were The Aleems, Dr Jeckyll + Mr Hyde, Scratch Al-D and Marley Marl.
He was a referee for NCAA Division 3 basketball in the late 80's and early 90's.
He's also run a youth program in New York City, for underprivileged kids. He still keeps in touch with several artists including Mr Hyde, Aleem Brothers and Marley Marl.
Additional info by Zero one and Rob Evans and mr ed
Defining 12"s
Cosmic Glide-1982
Captain Rock To The Future Shock-1984
Cosmic Blast-1984
Return Of Captain Rock-1984
Bongo Beat-1986
House Of Rock / You Stink-1986
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: Egyptian Lover...
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Egyptian Lover records didn't start appearing until several years after the New York and Miami electro scenes were already in full swing, by the mid-'80s Egyptian Lover cuts like "Egypt, Egypt" were standards among club DJs, particularly in the breakdance scene. Early cuts such as "Computer Love" and "Dance" were among Egyptian Lover's most experimental, with the material appearing through the latter half of the '80s increasingly flirting with full-blown rap by adding more vocals and melodic hooks. While more of his material dates from the latter phase, it's his earlier releases that remain his most accomplished, and they're routinely namechecked by a new generation of producers such as Autechre and I-F inspired by electro's first wave. Also a member of Uncle Jamm's Army and the force behind a half dozen labels including Freak Beat and Egyptian Empire, Broussard also released the old-shcool classic "Computer Power" under the name Jamie Jupitor. After nearly a decade, Egyptian Lover released the digitally edited compilation "Pyramix", then hit the studio again and produced new tracks in the same funky electro style for the album "Back From the Tomb".
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: Just Ice...
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Brooklyn-born Just-Ice was among the first gangsta rappers. Inspired by a Mele Mel show, Just began rapping in his early teens, buying his first rhyme from a friend for $3. His first album 'Back to the Old School' was released in 1986 on Sleeping Bag Records and pointed to a new direction in rap. However, as more and more rappers followed down the gangsta path, Just-Ice went with a more hard-core, straight hip-hop, and often even ragamuffin style. Even with production by artists like Mantronix, KRS-One and Grandmaster Flash and seven albums under his belt, Just still never achieved the commercial success of many of his peers.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Just+Ice
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A former bouncer at punk clubs, Joseph Williams, Jr. was the first of the New York rappers to embrace gangsta rap, and when he burst out of Ft. Greene, Brooklyn as Just-Ice, he gained instant notoriety. Muscle-bound, tattooed, aggressive -- he resembled Mike Tyson in more than just looks -- and with a mouthful of gold teeth, he certainly stood out. His debut album Back to the Old School proved he was more than just a pretty face. It came out on the independent New York label Sleeping Bag, and certainly sounded like no other hip-hop album, thanks to his fast, forceful rhymes, DMX's human beatbox as well as the distinctive production of Mantronix's Kurtis Mantronik.
When he was held by Washington, D.C., police regarding the murder of a drug dealer in 1987 ("Murder, Drugs, and the Rap Star" read a Washington Post headline), it gave him an even greater notoriety (he was never charged with the murder). Declaring war on D.C.'s go-go scene and loudly criticizing Run D.M.C. (then the ruling New York rap outfit), Just-Ice set a pattern for many a future hip-hop feud. Little could halt Just-Ice's ascension to hip-hop stardom, though the departure of Mantronik from Sleeping Bag was a bad omen. KRS-One stepped in to produce 1987's Kool & Deadly, an album that swapped Mantronik's hi-tech skills for raw, elemental beats and rhymes. The British and New York public that had so enthusiastically embraced Back to the Old School were diffident about this one, and 1989's The Desolate One (with KRS-One back in the producer's seat) was no great improvement. By 1990, both Just-Ice and Sleeping Bag appeared to be quickly fading as a new generation of rappers and labels overtook them. He continued to release albums at intervals across the 1990s, but they were on tiny independent labels and were rarely noticed. Just-Ice was a member of hip-hop super session, the Stop the Violence All Stars, who released one single ("Self Destruction") in 1990. The revival of interest in old-school rap in the late '90s created fresh demand for Back to the Old School, but Just-Ice appeared unwilling or unable to capitalize on the renewed interest.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:52 am Post subject: Kurtis Blow...
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As the first commercially successful rap artist, Kurtis Blow is a towering figure in hip-hop history. His popularity and charisma helped prove that rap music was something more than a flash-in-the-pan novelty, paving the way for the even greater advances of Grandmaster Flash and Run-D.M.C. Blow was the first rapper to sign with (and release an album for) a major label; the first to have a single certified gold (1980's landmark "The Breaks"); the first to embark on a national (and international) concert tour; and the first to cement rap's mainstream marketability by signing an endorsement deal. For that matter, he was really the first significant solo rapper on record, and as such he was a natural focal point for many aspiring young MCs in the early days of hip-hop. For all his immense importance and influence, many of Blow's records haven't dated all that well; his rapping technique, limber for its time, simply wasn't as evolved as the more advanced MCs who built upon his style and followed him up the charts. But at his very best, Blow epitomizes the virtues of the old school: ingratiating, strutting party music that captures the exuberance of an art form still in its youth.
Kurtis Blow was born Kurtis Walker in Harlem in 1959. He was in on the earliest stages of hip-hop culture in the '70s -- first as a breakdancer, then as a block-party and club DJ performing under the name Kool DJ Kurt; after enrolling at CCNY in 1976, he also served as program director for the college radio station. He became an MC in his own right around 1977, and changed his name to Kurtis Blow (as in a body blow) at the suggestion of his manager, future Def Jam founder and rap mogul Russell Simmons. Blow performed with legendary DJs like Grandmaster Flash, and for a time his regular DJ was Simmons' teenage brother Joseph -- who, after changing his stage name from "Son of Kurtis Blow," would go on to become the first half of Run-D.M.C. Over 1977-1978, Blow's club gigs around Harlem and the Bronx made him an underground sensation, and Billboard magazine writer Robert Ford approached Simmons about making a record. Blow cut a song co-written by Ford and financier J.B. Moore called "Christmas Rappin'," and it helped him get a deal with Mercury once the Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight" had climbed into the R&B Top Five.
Blow's second single, "The Breaks," was an out-of-the-box smash, following "Rapper's Delight" into the Top Five of the R&B charts in 1980 and eventually going gold; it still ranks as one of old school rap's greatest and most enduring moments. The full-length album Kurtis Blow was also released in 1980, and made the R&B Top Ten in spite of many assumptions that the Sugarhill Gang's success was a one-time fluke. Although the album's attempts at soul crooning and rock covers haven't dated well, the poverty-themed "Hard Times" marked perhaps the first instance of hip-hop's social consciousness, and was later covered by Run-D.M.C. Blow initially found it hard to follow up "The Breaks," despite releasing nearly an album a year for most of the '80s. 1981's Deuce and 1982's Tough weren't huge sellers, and 1983's Party Time EP brought D.C. go-go funksters E.U. on board for a stylistic update. Around this time, Blow was also making his mark as a producer, working with a variety of hip-hop and R&B artists; most notably, he helmed most of the Fat Boys' records after helping them get a record deal. 1984's Ego Trip sold respectably well on the strength of cuts like the DJ tribute "AJ Scratch," the agreeably lightweight "Basketball," and the Run-D.M.C. duet "8 Million Stories." Blow followed it with an appearance in the cult hip-hop film Krush Groove, in which he performed "If I Ruled the World," his biggest hit since "The Breaks."
"If I Ruled the World" proved to be the last gasp of Blow's popularity, as hip-hop's rapid growth made his style seem increasingly outdated. 1985's America was largely ignored, and 1986's Kingdom Blow was afforded an icy reception despite producing a final chart hit, "I'm Chillin'." Critics savaged his final comeback attempt, 1988's Back by Popular Demand, almost invariably pointing out that the title, at that point, was not true. In its wake, Blow gave up the ghost of his recording career, but found other ways to keep the spirit of the old school alive. In the early '90s, he contributed rap material to the TV soap opera One Life to Live, and later spent several years hosting an old-school hip-hop show on Los Angeles radio station Power 106. In 1997, Rhino Records took advantage of his status as a hip-hop elder statesmen by hiring him to produce, compile, and write liner notes for the three-volume series Kurtis Blow Presents the History of Rap. The same year, he was a significant presence in the rap documentary Rhyme and Reason. Blow's music has also been revived by younger artists seeking to pay tribute; Nas covered "If I Rule the World" on 1996's It Was Written, and R&B group Next sampled "Christmas Rappin'" for their 1998 smash "Too Close."
check out an article that ran in the Christian Science Monitor
'Shake it out for Jesus': Churches co-opt hip-hop
By Nate Herpich | Contributor to The Christian Science Monitor
NEW YORK – Rapper Kurtis Blow stands in the front of the church wearing a black do-rag, scratching records old-school, accompanied by a drummer in a hooded sweatshirt and a keyboardist in a New York Jets jersey. The congregation is on its feet, dancing.
"Shake it out," says the Rev. Stephen Pogue of the Greater Hood Memorial A.M.E. Zion Church in Harlem. "Shake it out for Jesus. On your feet for 90 seconds."
Hip-Hop Church has been electrifying Greater Hood on Thursday nights for the past year. Pastor Pogue himself was a fan of Blow some years back, when the musician helped rap emerge on the national scene. Since then, however, Pogue has become dismayed by what he sees as industry moguls pushing artists into ever-edgier realms. Indeed, rap is often known for glorifying violence and using misogynistic lyrics. Yet now, Pogue's church is offering a cleaner version of rap, even putting it in a spiritual dimension.
"I understand that there's a lot of negative in hip-hop today," Pogue says. "But Hip-Hop Church highlights the positive sides of hip-hop, what hip-hop can do."
This marriage between rap and a Harlem church on 146th Street is one of many efforts to improve the genre's image. In recent years several innovative organizations, including the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network, have formed, both to help rap's image and offer community programs. The 2004 elections even prompted a National Hip-Hop Political Convention in Newark, N.J.
But Greater Hood, more than just interested in changing hip-hop's reputation, has discovered a unique means of reaching a new generation of congregants. And what's happening at Greater Hood is part of a slowly developing national phenomenon. The Lawndale Community Church in Chicago, for instance, offers its own weekly rap-inspired service called "Tha House" - and one of its pastors, Phil Jackson, has co-written a book entitled "The Hip-Hop Church," due out at the end of this month.
The music has also emanated from Christian churches in cities not typically known for hip-hop, such as Tampa, Fla. Even Redeemer Lutheran Church in Minneapolis, a congregation evenly divided between whites and blacks, has a weekly hip-hop service led by Christian rapper David Scherer, aka Agape.
Says Redeemer's pastor, Kelly Chatman: "Young people are not coming to church to hear classical music like they did when I was young.... Hip-hop is simply the vernacular of a culture that the church should be reaching out to."
3 Shades of Faith speaks that language at Greater Hood, with songs like "Flipside" and freestyle sessions straight a cappella. The group is made up of three Harlem teens: Tykym Stallings, whose stage name is Malakai; Lamar Haney, known as Noah; and Michael Sims, who goes by Mic. 3 Shades writes all their own lyrics, and Pogue checks them out before they're put to a beat in the church. Stallings says some congregants are starting to know some of the songs. On this night at least, a couple of kids in the front row follow along, lip-syncing some lyrics. "My inspiration in writing comes from things I see that God has given me," says Sims.
According to Stallings, the group's members share similar stories growing up together in the church, dealing with obstacles in school and on the streets. Stallings says he struggled with grades in school, and the pull of gangs. He's now a freshman at Nyack College in upstate New York. Haney first came to Greater Hood for a funeral, after a friend had been shot. Pogue remembers that Haney showed up the next Sunday, and the next, and the next. A high school dropout at the time, Haney went back to school. He, too, is now in college.
"We are trying to teach kids that they don't have to be a statistic," says Pogue. "They don't have to be a part of the jail system or undereducated. So many people perish because of a lack of knowledge." Pogue says hip-hop has played a major role in the education of these three teens.
It is these types of stories that make Blow feel as if he and the genre he helped to mold are doing something worthwhile. He has seen hip-hop blow up in popularity, now 25 years since his certified gold record "The Breaks" was released, and three decades after he burst onto the scene as a DJ and break dancer named Kool DJ Kurt. He's watched hip-hop spread globally, becoming what he calls "the primary culture of modern society." He tells of Palestinian rappers whose song was No. 1 on Israeli radio. (In 2004 Tamer Nafar and his group Dam released a single called "Born Here" with lyrics in both Arabic and Hebrew.) He is impressed by a new generation of rappers that features faster rhymes and more creative, diverse beats.
The daunting question remains: Can a religious hip-hop movement really make enough of a dent in the market to become a serious alternative for kids buying records? So called "positive rappers" like Mos Def and Common are successful, yet recent entries on Billboard's Top 10 rap albums include 50 Cent's "Get Rich or Die Tryin'," Chamillionaire's "The Sound of Revenge," Pitbull's "Money Is Still a Major Issue," and Young Jeezy's "Let's Get It: Thug Motivation 101."
Blow acknowledges that something is missing. He says he and other "positive artists" must work to repaint the image of the art form, which he says the entertainment industry has tarnished, and pray that a new movement takes hold.
"What is needed in hip-hop is spirituality," he says. "I believe hip-hop can save the church, and the church can save hip-hop." He believes that songs like West's "Jesus Walks," which was a critical and commercial success, have given the church some momentum to build on. His old friend Joseph Simmons, formerly known as "the son of Kurtis Blow" and later half of Run DMC, is now a minister with a popular reality show on MTV.
Mr. Chatman of Redeemer in Minneapolis agrees with Blow: More important than merely asking if hip-hop can work, he says, is making the decision to accept hip-hop as a viable means of spreading the gospel. To him, hip-hop presents an opportunity to educate and empower a new population of young people. On a typical Sunday morning at Redeemer, about 70 people show up to hear the Christian word. Yet 300 attend the church's hip-hop services.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: DJ Mark The 45 King and The Flavor Unit...
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The Flavor Unit was a posse of rappers and DJs from New York City and Northern New Jersey, who had albums and tracks produced by the legendary DJ Mark "The 45 King"/
They are now known as The Unit. Flavor Unit Management is run by Queen Latifah, one of the original members of the Flavor Unit, and Shakim Compere
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DJ Mark the 45 King (born Mark James), also known as the 45 King, started DJing in New Jersey in the mid-80s. The nickname "the 45 King" comes from his ability to make beats using obscure 45 rpm records.
The 45 King first gained fame with his breakbeat track "The 900 Number" in 1987. The song featured a looping tenor sax solo from Marva Whitney's "Unwind Yourself". The 45 King was signed to Tuff City Records that year and given a production deal. The "900 Number' remains his signature work having been resampled by many artists.
In the early 90's a drug addiction took its toll on the 45 King's career causing him to loose a production contract with Time Warner. Around this time the 45 King released multiple series of breakbeat records (The Lost Breakbeat series, the Breakapalooza series, etc.) and a few tracks for other rappers, but stayed mainly with his breakbeat record franchises.
Using his popularity from the previous release, the 45 King was able to help the other members of his crew, dubbed "The Flavor Unit." The 45 King's second break came when Flavor Unit member Queen Latifah was signed to the Tommy Boy label (at the time home of De La Soul and Stetsasonic) and released the album "All Hail the Queen" (featuring KRS-One, Daddy-O, and Prince Paul). This album is considered by critics to be the 45 Kings best production work.
In 1996 Washington, D.C. based Go-go DJ, DJ Kool scored a big hit with the song "Let Me Clear My Throat" it was simply call-and-response vocals over the "900 Number" beat, but was popular nationwide. DJ Kool didn't just sample the track, he acknowledged the 45 King's as the song's originator, and the 45 King even remixed the track for Kool.
In 1998 the 45 King produced "It's a Hard Knock Life (Ghetto Anthem)" for Jay-Z. The song was a hit that featured a looped chorus from the Broadway Musical Annie. In 2000, he produced the platinum track "Stan" for Eminem, solidifying his reputation as a top-notch beatmaker.
Original Members: DJ Mark The 45 King Queen Latifah Lakim Shabazz Louis Vega (Producer)
Chill Rob G Lord Alibaski Markey Fresh Double J Apache Nikki D Naughty By Nature Freddie Foxxx Latee
Despite the fact that his classic debut single served as the inspiration for the name of his crew, Latee remains as one of the more enigmatic members of the New Jersey collective. Anyone who used to catch Kool DJ Red Alert’s show on KISS-FM would instantly recognise the block-rocking Fatback riff and earth-shattering kick drum combo of “This Cut’s Got Flavorâ€, as it was a fixture of Red’s “45 King Specials†for a year before it even made it onto vinyl. The first time I heard the song on tape, it was tragically cut short – after the intro’s wailing sax – only one bar into La’s verse:
“Now for those who like sniffing, riffin’ and beefing – I’ll add the flavor, so you can sink your teeth in / Weak beats are bitter, that’s why I got ridda some crews, but that’s old news, now I’m with a…â€
I lost track of how many time I rewinded that tape. 45 King’s jaw-dropping beat has to take much of the credit, but Latee’s voice was ill. Although this particular tape featured now-classic new songs from Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions and Just-Ice, it was this elusive snippet that had me fiendin’. It would be another couple of years before I actually got my hands on this record, and while the copy I found was pretty beat-up (complete with marker scribbled all over the label), it remains as one of the most prized pieces in my collection.
“No Tricks†was Latee’s second and final Wild Pitch release, driven by a JB’s guitar loop and another strong vocal performance. (Gangstarr fans will notice that the hook from “Positivity†was sourced from the accapella), while the slower “Wake Up†might sound a little dated musically, but La still delivers in the booth, covering everything from describing his dancers’ moves to how he and the crew “get [in]do’ed up, becuase the cess to me’s a relief, because we smoke the cess out the fronta leafâ€, which was an unusual pro-weed stance during a time when anti-drug records were rampant (although most of them were about crack).
It would be five long years before Latee would release another song to the masses (‘92’s “Brainstorm†was promo-only), this time without the help of the King, on the Roll Wit The Flava album. But stuck with an unispiring S.I.D. track and typical ‘93 chant chorus, “Let Yourself Go†didn’t make much of an impression during Naughty By Nature’s heyday.
Fast-forward another five years or so, and we’re blessed with another 45 King/Latee winner in the form of the xylophone-driven “Latee Rocks The Bellsâ€. Originally recorded for the bootleg only Put The Funk Out There album (which mysteriously features fake Rocafella and Def Jam logos on the label), the song was later issued in a stripped-down alternative mix on 12†by Blazin’ around 2002. To confuse matter further, La mentions “’94†before he rocks the second verse, so this was most likely recorded back then. Either way, it’s a quality cut.
Other than his music, there’s no much else I can tell you about this guy, other than the fact that he’s “about 5’ 10â€, slim, never somethin’ I’m not†and he liked to sport “big blue sweatsuitsâ€. Not much help really, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed that he’s still making music somewhere.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:56 am Post subject: Audio Two (Milk D and DJ Gizmo)...
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Audio Two were a late 1980s rap due consisting of brothers Milk D. and DJ Gizmo. Breaking out with their first hit, "Top Billin'", they would follow that up with a full length release titled "What More Can I Say?". Following in their footsteps were Milk and Giz's sister, better known to the rap world as MC Lyte who also garnered some success with the release of several albums. Despite a promising start the Audio Two stalled with their sophomore effort, I Don't Care: The Album. By this time, neither did their fans and it sold poorly. Milk D. would release an LP a few years later but to dismal sales and success.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: Native Tongues...
Please Note this focuses on the original Native Tongue's collective...there is some info on Native Tongues when they re-formed in the late 90's.
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The Native Tongues Posse is a group of late 1980s and early 1990s Afro-American Hip-Hop artists known for their positive Afrocentric lyrics and jazzy beats. They were inspired by earlier, similar rappers, especially Afrika Bambaataa, and came together in order to cooperate on each other's projects and help bring socially-conscious hip hop to the mainstream.
Jungle Brothers
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The Jungle Brothers are an American alternative hip hop group who pioneered the fusion of jazz and hip hop. They began performing in the mid-1980s and released Straight Out the Jungle in 1988 (see 1988 in music). With Afrocentric lyrics and innovative beats, the Jungle Brothers were critically acclaimed and soon joined the influential Native Tongues Posse. The trio is comprised of Mike Gee, Afrika Baby Bam, and DJ Sammy B.
Their first album, "Straight Out the Jungle," was released on an independent label and featured the Todd Terry hip hop/house collaboration "I'll House You." In spite of the commercial failure of Straight Out the Jungle, Warner Brothers Records soon signed the group and released Done By the Forces of Nature in 1989 (see 1989 in music). The album was a critical smash at the time, though it has since been largely ignored by hip hop critics at the expense of the similarly acclaimed fusion of jazz and rap 3 Feet High and Rising by De La Soul, released the same year. Following a four year break, the Jungle Brothers returned in 1993 with J Beez Wit the Remedy (1993 in music), another commercial disappointment. Their next album, V.I.P. was produced by Alex Gifford of Propellerheads and, during production, they found time to add their vocal stylings to Take California (And Party), and You Want It Back. Their latest album to contain any new releases is 2002's All That We Do.
In 2001, their song "What's the Five 0" was featured in the music video game Frequency.
In 2004, the Jungle Brothers joined with English producer Mr On to produce "Breathe (Don't Stop)", a version of "Breathe and Stop" by Q-Tip of A Tribe Called Quest, combined with a sample of Michael Jackson's "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough".
In 2005, the Jungle Brothers released a "greatest ever hiphop hits" and "classic remixes & rarities" double-CD entitled This Is..., which included remixes by The Wiseguys, Urban Takeover, Natural Born Chillers and Stereo MCs.
Defining Albums:
Queen Latifah(also refer to the Original Flavor Unit thread)
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Latifah started her career beatboxing for the rap group Ladies Fresh. In 1988, local DJ Mark the 45 King heard a demo version of Latifah's single, "Princess of the Posse", and gave the demo to Fab Five Freddy (who at the time hosted Yo! MTV Raps). Freddy helped Latifah sign with Tommy Boy Records. They released Latifah's first album, All Hail the Queen, in (1989); at the time, she was 18. This debut managed to be both a critical and commercial success and was followed by the albums Nature of a Sista and Black Reign, which contained the hit single, U.N.I.T.Y.. After releasing four rap albums (the fourth being Order in the Court, released in 1998), she released a soul/jazz standards album in 2004 called The Dana Owens Album.
Defining Albums:
De La Soul
Quote:
De La Soul is a massively influential hip hop group, hailing from Amityville, Long Island, New York. They are best known for their eclectic sampling and quirky, surreal lyrics, and their contributions to the evolution of the jazz rap subgenre. The members are Kelvin Mercer (Posdnuos, Mercenary, Plug Wonder Why, Plug One), David Jude Jolicœur (Trugoy the Dove, Dave, Plug Two) and Vincent Mason (Pasemaster Mase, Maseo, Plug Three). The three formed the group in high school and caught the attention of producer Paul Huston (Prince Paul) with a demo tape of the song "Plug Tunin'".
Their debut album, 3 Feet High and Rising (1989), was a critical smash that saw the group labeled hippies due to the message of peace and love. They quickly became prominent members of the Zulu Nation, along with A Tribe Called Quest, Black Sheep, Queen Latifah, The Jungle Brothers and others. They were also members of the famed Native Tongues Posse and mentioned the group often in their music (though they have since left the group for various reasons). "Me, Myself and I" became a huge hit, further cementing the group's popularity. However, rock group the Turtles sued the group for sampling "You Showed Me" without permission on De La Soul's "Transmitting Live from Mars". From that point on, sampling required permission from the sources before it was released.
After 3 Feet High and Rising, De La Soul was pegged by audiences as hippies and were expected to continue creating the same type of music. This greatly agitated the group, as they always envisioned their career as a constantly changing style. This would influence their next recording sessions.
De La Soul's second album, De La Soul Is Dead (1991) was a much darker album. It featured skits that criticized the direction that hip hop was heading in at the time, though it still managed to maintain a light sense of humor. While the album is a fan favorite today, it received mixed reviews and did not sell as well as 3 Feet High and Rising.
1993's Buhloone Mindstate and 1996's Stakes Is High saw the group evolve a new sound, that although again did not garner commercial success, did cement their position as mainstays of the alternative hip hop movement.
Four years later, De La Soul announced that they would release a triple album series entitled "Art Official Intelligence" (or AOI). All three albums were intended to be released within a year, beginning with the release of Art Official Intelligence: Mosaic Thump. This was followed by AOI: Bionix in late 2001. After this, however, the public saw no release of the third and final album in the AOI series. For the next two years, the only De La Soul releases were singles or remix compilations. Jolicœur (Dave) stated in an interview that it usually takes about four years for the group to record an album, promote it with advertisements, touring and so on. The group was having trouble finishing the last AOI installment for many reasons, one of which being an ongoing struggle with Tommy Boy Records, who had been releasing their albums ever since their debut.
In 2004, De La Soul ended up releasing a new full album: The Grind Date on Sanctuary Records. Although it was not the new AOI album their fans had been anticipating, it was released to some critical acclaim and was well received by most fans. The album also receives recognition for being the seventh studio album from the group.
In 2005, they were featured on the Gorillaz single, "Feel Good Inc" and on the LA Symphony single "Universal". "Feel Good Inc" also won a Grammy for Best Pop Vocal Collaboration.
Defining Albums:
Monie Love
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Monie Love's vocals first appeared on Queen Latifah's "Ladies First", and also had a part in the remix of Whitney Houston's dance hit, "My Name Is Not Susan", in 1991. She later went on to work with many important hip hop producers, like Marley Marl, Afrika Baby Bam from the Jungle Brothers, and even Prince. She was also promoted to play the role of Synclaire in the sitcom Living Single, but the part eventually went to comedienne Kim Coles.
Defining Albums:
*NB: This 1991 LP also the very first production credits for The Beatnuts.
A Tribe Called Quest
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A Tribe Called Quest was an influential rap group of the 1990s, originally formed in Queens, New York City in 1988. The group is comprised of Q-Tip, Phife Dawg, and DJ Ali Shaheed Muhammad. A fourth member, Jarobi, was with the group for the first album, but parted ways with the group after.
Q-Tip and Phife had grown up together in Queens, and met Muhammad in high school. The group's name was coined by The Jungle Brothers, whose members attended the same school. Soon after, the group began performing live and recording on a local label. The group became a part of the Native Tongues family, a Hip-Hop artist collective, whose membership included Tribe collaborators such as the Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, Monie Love and Black Sheep.
At the time of their inception, A Tribe Called Quest was unique within the hip hop community for eschewing gangsta rap and macho posturing. Their lyrics focused on abstract and social issues such as the word "nigger", date rape and consumerism. Musically, the group helped pioneer the jazz-rap style (along with groups such as Gang Starr and De La Soul). They made their studio debut in 1990 with People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm. Though this album was critically acclaimed and lead to a strong fan following, their next album, The Low End Theory (1991) was a massive artistic success, appearing on several best of the year lists. It is considered one of the most important hip-hop albums to date. The Low End Theory was followed by Midnight Marauders (1993), Beats, Rhymes and Life (1996) and The Love Movement (1998).
Following their final album, the group disbanded. Q-Tip and Phife Dawg went on to pursue solo careers, while Muhammad founded the R&B group Lucy Pearl.
Recently, there have been rumors of a reunion between the trio, ignited by a spate of group concert appearances around the US, but their most recent appearance was a post-Grammy concert in 2005 and there has been little news of an upcoming album, leading some to believe that the rumors may be unfounded.
Defining Albums:
Black Sheep
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Black Sheep is an alternative hip-hop duo from Queens, New York, consisting of Andres "Dres" Titus and William "Mista Lawnge" McLean. They were a part of the Native Tongues Posse, which included The Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest and De La Soul. They debuted in 1991 with the hit song "Flavor of the Month", and later released ther first album, A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing, which gained them praise and recognition in the hip-hop community for its unique rhythms and intelligent lyrics.
A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing charted 3 times on the Billboard Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart in 1992 with "The Choice Is Yours" (#9), and "Strobelite Honey" (#1). Black Sheep would also work as featured rappers on Vanessa Williams' album, Work to Do (#8). The group's second album, Non-Fiction, was seen as not living up to the group's well-established talents. Due to virtually no promotion and a generally poor reception, the album managed only lackluster sales. Titus and McLean would separate soon afterwards to attend to various independent projects. In 2000, they reunited to record a track for the movie Once in the Life. They are currently planning to release a new mixtape entitled 8WM, which is scheduled for release in the summer of 2006.
They were featured on the second Handsome Boy Modeling School album, White People on the track First...and Then.
Defining Albums:
Chi-Ali
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Former Black Sheep collaborator Chi-Ali Griffith was arrested on March 4 in the Bronx, just a week after his story appeared for a second time on "America's Most Wanted." As The 411 Online first reported in February 2000, Chi-Ali was being sought by New York police in connection with the Jan. 14, 2000, shooting and murder of his girlfriend's brother. Police allege that Chi-Ali shot Sean Raymond five times over a $300 debt and a rare collection of about 60 CDs. Police tracked him down in Atlanta in May, but missed him by about ten minutes, so they turned to "America's Most Wanted" for help. The show first aired Chi-Ali's story in November, but no solid leads were generated by the broadcast. But when "America's Most Wanted" profiled him again on Feb. 24, several viewers called in to report that Chi-Ali was in the South Bronx. One tipster called in an exact address -- 1575 Odell Street -- and a short time later a team of detectives from New York's 45th precinct arrested him. Chi-Ali, who was armed at the time of his arrest, became the 657th capture of the long-running FOX television series. Chi-Ali made his first appearance on Black Sheep's 1991 album, A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing, on the posse cut "Pass the 40." His only album, The Fabulous Chi-Ali, was released in 1992. Chi-Ali also made an appearance on former Black Sheep Dres' comeback album in 1999.
Defining Albums:
*NB: This was also the first ever album The Beatnuts had produced (except for one track produced by Mr Lawnge
Native Tongues were later re-instated as Pos said on the classic J Dilla produced "Stakes Is High" and members included...(this was circa 96-98...there isn't a Native Tongues anymore...)
Common Mos Def & Talib Kewli (aka Blackstar)
other associates included...
The Beatnuts
Shortie No Mass The Violators Da Bush Babees Lucien Revolucien, aka Papa Lu, an immigrant from France who was involved with Jungle Brothers and A Tribe Called Quest albums circa 1990
(*Hence the ATCQ track Luck of Lucien, he also rhymed on the first Beatnuts LP)
Busta Rhymes Brand Nubian
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: Native Tongues...
Please Note this focuses on the original Native Tongue's collective...there is some info on Native Tongues when they re-formed in the late 90's.
Quote:
The Native Tongues Posse is a group of late 1980s and early 1990s Afro-American Hip-Hop artists known for their positive Afrocentric lyrics and jazzy beats. They were inspired by earlier, similar rappers, especially Afrika Bambaataa, and came together in order to cooperate on each other's projects and help bring socially-conscious hip hop to the mainstream.
Jungle Brothers
Quote:
The Jungle Brothers are an American alternative hip hop group who pioneered the fusion of jazz and hip hop. They began performing in the mid-1980s and released Straight Out the Jungle in 1988 (see 1988 in music). With Afrocentric lyrics and innovative beats, the Jungle Brothers were critically acclaimed and soon joined the influential Native Tongues Posse. The trio is comprised of Mike Gee, Afrika Baby Bam, and DJ Sammy B.
Their first album, "Straight Out the Jungle," was released on an independent label and featured the Todd Terry hip hop/house collaboration "I'll House You." In spite of the commercial failure of Straight Out the Jungle, Warner Brothers Records soon signed the group and released Done By the Forces of Nature in 1989 (see 1989 in music). The album was a critical smash at the time, though it has since been largely ignored by hip hop critics at the expense of the similarly acclaimed fusion of jazz and rap 3 Feet High and Rising by De La Soul, released the same year. Following a four year break, the Jungle Brothers returned in 1993 with J Beez Wit the Remedy (1993 in music), another commercial disappointment. Their next album, V.I.P. was produced by Alex Gifford of Propellerheads and, during production, they found time to add their vocal stylings to Take California (And Party), and You Want It Back. Their latest album to contain any new releases is 2002's All That We Do.
In 2001, their song "What's the Five 0" was featured in the music video game Frequency.
In 2004, the Jungle Brothers joined with English producer Mr On to produce "Breathe (Don't Stop)", a version of "Breathe and Stop" by Q-Tip of A Tribe Called Quest, combined with a sample of Michael Jackson's "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough".
In 2005, the Jungle Brothers released a "greatest ever hiphop hits" and "classic remixes & rarities" double-CD entitled This Is..., which included remixes by The Wiseguys, Urban Takeover, Natural Born Chillers and Stereo MCs.
Defining Albums:
Queen Latifah(also refer to the Original Flavor Unit thread)
Quote:
Latifah started her career beatboxing for the rap group Ladies Fresh. In 1988, local DJ Mark the 45 King heard a demo version of Latifah's single, "Princess of the Posse", and gave the demo to Fab Five Freddy (who at the time hosted Yo! MTV Raps). Freddy helped Latifah sign with Tommy Boy Records. They released Latifah's first album, All Hail the Queen, in (1989); at the time, she was 18. This debut managed to be both a critical and commercial success and was followed by the albums Nature of a Sista and Black Reign, which contained the hit single, U.N.I.T.Y.. After releasing four rap albums (the fourth being Order in the Court, released in 1998), she released a soul/jazz standards album in 2004 called The Dana Owens Album.
Defining Albums:
De La Soul
Quote:
De La Soul is a massively influential hip hop group, hailing from Amityville, Long Island, New York. They are best known for their eclectic sampling and quirky, surreal lyrics, and their contributions to the evolution of the jazz rap subgenre. The members are Kelvin Mercer (Posdnuos, Mercenary, Plug Wonder Why, Plug One), David Jude Jolicœur (Trugoy the Dove, Dave, Plug Two) and Vincent Mason (Pasemaster Mase, Maseo, Plug Three). The three formed the group in high school and caught the attention of producer Paul Huston (Prince Paul) with a demo tape of the song "Plug Tunin'".
Their debut album, 3 Feet High and Rising (1989), was a critical smash that saw the group labeled hippies due to the message of peace and love. They quickly became prominent members of the Zulu Nation, along with A Tribe Called Quest, Black Sheep, Queen Latifah, The Jungle Brothers and others. They were also members of the famed Native Tongues Posse and mentioned the group often in their music (though they have since left the group for various reasons). "Me, Myself and I" became a huge hit, further cementing the group's popularity. However, rock group the Turtles sued the group for sampling "You Showed Me" without permission on De La Soul's "Transmitting Live from Mars". From that point on, sampling required permission from the sources before it was released.
After 3 Feet High and Rising, De La Soul was pegged by audiences as hippies and were expected to continue creating the same type of music. This greatly agitated the group, as they always envisioned their career as a constantly changing style. This would influence their next recording sessions.
De La Soul's second album, De La Soul Is Dead (1991) was a much darker album. It featured skits that criticized the direction that hip hop was heading in at the time, though it still managed to maintain a light sense of humor. While the album is a fan favorite today, it received mixed reviews and did not sell as well as 3 Feet High and Rising.
1993's Buhloone Mindstate and 1996's Stakes Is High saw the group evolve a new sound, that although again did not garner commercial success, did cement their position as mainstays of the alternative hip hop movement.
Four years later, De La Soul announced that they would release a triple album series entitled "Art Official Intelligence" (or AOI). All three albums were intended to be released within a year, beginning with the release of Art Official Intelligence: Mosaic Thump. This was followed by AOI: Bionix in late 2001. After this, however, the public saw no release of the third and final album in the AOI series. For the next two years, the only De La Soul releases were singles or remix compilations. Jolicœur (Dave) stated in an interview that it usually takes about four years for the group to record an album, promote it with advertisements, touring and so on. The group was having trouble finishing the last AOI installment for many reasons, one of which being an ongoing struggle with Tommy Boy Records, who had been releasing their albums ever since their debut.
In 2004, De La Soul ended up releasing a new full album: The Grind Date on Sanctuary Records. Although it was not the new AOI album their fans had been anticipating, it was released to some critical acclaim and was well received by most fans. The album also receives recognition for being the seventh studio album from the group.
In 2005, they were featured on the Gorillaz single, "Feel Good Inc" and on the LA Symphony single "Universal". "Feel Good Inc" also won a Grammy for Best Pop Vocal Collaboration.
Defining Albums:
Monie Love
Quote:
Monie Love's vocals first appeared on Queen Latifah's "Ladies First", and also had a part in the remix of Whitney Houston's dance hit, "My Name Is Not Susan", in 1991. She later went on to work with many important hip hop producers, like Marley Marl, Afrika Baby Bam from the Jungle Brothers, and even Prince. She was also promoted to play the role of Synclaire in the sitcom Living Single, but the part eventually went to comedienne Kim Coles.
Defining Albums:
*NB: This 1991 LP also the very first production credits for The Beatnuts.
A Tribe Called Quest
Quote:
A Tribe Called Quest was an influential rap group of the 1990s, originally formed in Queens, New York City in 1988. The group is comprised of Q-Tip, Phife Dawg, and DJ Ali Shaheed Muhammad. A fourth member, Jarobi, was with the group for the first album, but parted ways with the group after.
Q-Tip and Phife had grown up together in Queens, and met Muhammad in high school. The group's name was coined by The Jungle Brothers, whose members attended the same school. Soon after, the group began performing live and recording on a local label. The group became a part of the Native Tongues family, a Hip-Hop artist collective, whose membership included Tribe collaborators such as the Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, Monie Love and Black Sheep.
At the time of their inception, A Tribe Called Quest was unique within the hip hop community for eschewing gangsta rap and macho posturing. Their lyrics focused on abstract and social issues such as the word "nigger", date rape and consumerism. Musically, the group helped pioneer the jazz-rap style (along with groups such as Gang Starr and De La Soul). They made their studio debut in 1990 with People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm. Though this album was critically acclaimed and lead to a strong fan following, their next album, The Low End Theory (1991) was a massive artistic success, appearing on several best of the year lists. It is considered one of the most important hip-hop albums to date. The Low End Theory was followed by Midnight Marauders (1993), Beats, Rhymes and Life (1996) and The Love Movement (1998).
Following their final album, the group disbanded. Q-Tip and Phife Dawg went on to pursue solo careers, while Muhammad founded the R&B group Lucy Pearl.
Recently, there have been rumors of a reunion between the trio, ignited by a spate of group concert appearances around the US, but their most recent appearance was a post-Grammy concert in 2005 and there has been little news of an upcoming album, leading some to believe that the rumors may be unfounded.
Defining Albums:
Black Sheep
Quote:
Black Sheep is an alternative hip-hop duo from Queens, New York, consisting of Andres "Dres" Titus and William "Mista Lawnge" McLean. They were a part of the Native Tongues Posse, which included The Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest and De La Soul. They debuted in 1991 with the hit song "Flavor of the Month", and later released ther first album, A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing, which gained them praise and recognition in the hip-hop community for its unique rhythms and intelligent lyrics.
A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing charted 3 times on the Billboard Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart in 1992 with "The Choice Is Yours" (#9), and "Strobelite Honey" (#1). Black Sheep would also work as featured rappers on Vanessa Williams' album, Work to Do (#8). The group's second album, Non-Fiction, was seen as not living up to the group's well-established talents. Due to virtually no promotion and a generally poor reception, the album managed only lackluster sales. Titus and McLean would separate soon afterwards to attend to various independent projects. In 2000, they reunited to record a track for the movie Once in the Life. They are currently planning to release a new mixtape entitled 8WM, which is scheduled for release in the summer of 2006.
They were featured on the second Handsome Boy Modeling School album, White People on the track First...and Then.
Defining Albums:
Chi-Ali
Quote:
Former Black Sheep collaborator Chi-Ali Griffith was arrested on March 4 in the Bronx, just a week after his story appeared for a second time on "America's Most Wanted." As The 411 Online first reported in February 2000, Chi-Ali was being sought by New York police in connection with the Jan. 14, 2000, shooting and murder of his girlfriend's brother. Police allege that Chi-Ali shot Sean Raymond five times over a $300 debt and a rare collection of about 60 CDs. Police tracked him down in Atlanta in May, but missed him by about ten minutes, so they turned to "America's Most Wanted" for help. The show first aired Chi-Ali's story in November, but no solid leads were generated by the broadcast. But when "America's Most Wanted" profiled him again on Feb. 24, several viewers called in to report that Chi-Ali was in the South Bronx. One tipster called in an exact address -- 1575 Odell Street -- and a short time later a team of detectives from New York's 45th precinct arrested him. Chi-Ali, who was armed at the time of his arrest, became the 657th capture of the long-running FOX television series. Chi-Ali made his first appearance on Black Sheep's 1991 album, A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing, on the posse cut "Pass the 40." His only album, The Fabulous Chi-Ali, was released in 1992. Chi-Ali also made an appearance on former Black Sheep Dres' comeback album in 1999.
Defining Albums:
*NB: This was also the first ever album The Beatnuts had produced (except for one track produced by Mr Lawnge
Native Tongues were later re-instated as Pos said on the classic J Dilla produced "Stakes Is High" and members included...(this was circa 96-98...there isn't a Native Tongues anymore...)
Common Mos Def & Talib Kewli (aka Blackstar)
other associates included...
The Beatnuts
Shortie No Mass The Violators Da Bush Babees Lucien Revolucien, aka Papa Lu, an immigrant from France who was involved with Jungle Brothers and A Tribe Called Quest albums circa 1990
(*Hence the ATCQ track Luck of Lucien, he also rhymed on the first Beatnuts LP)
Busta Rhymes Brand Nubian
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: Native Tongues...
Please Note this focuses on the original Native Tongue's collective...there is some info on Native Tongues when they re-formed in the late 90's.
Quote:
The Native Tongues Posse is a group of late 1980s and early 1990s Afro-American Hip-Hop artists known for their positive Afrocentric lyrics and jazzy beats. They were inspired by earlier, similar rappers, especially Afrika Bambaataa, and came together in order to cooperate on each other's projects and help bring socially-conscious hip hop to the mainstream.
Jungle Brothers
Quote:
The Jungle Brothers are an American alternative hip hop group who pioneered the fusion of jazz and hip hop. They began performing in the mid-1980s and released Straight Out the Jungle in 1988 (see 1988 in music). With Afrocentric lyrics and innovative beats, the Jungle Brothers were critically acclaimed and soon joined the influential Native Tongues Posse. The trio is comprised of Mike Gee, Afrika Baby Bam, and DJ Sammy B.
Their first album, "Straight Out the Jungle," was released on an independent label and featured the Todd Terry hip hop/house collaboration "I'll House You." In spite of the commercial failure of Straight Out the Jungle, Warner Brothers Records soon signed the group and released Done By the Forces of Nature in 1989 (see 1989 in music). The album was a critical smash at the time, though it has since been largely ignored by hip hop critics at the expense of the similarly acclaimed fusion of jazz and rap 3 Feet High and Rising by De La Soul, released the same year. Following a four year break, the Jungle Brothers returned in 1993 with J Beez Wit the Remedy (1993 in music), another commercial disappointment. Their next album, V.I.P. was produced by Alex Gifford of Propellerheads and, during production, they found time to add their vocal stylings to Take California (And Party), and You Want It Back. Their latest album to contain any new releases is 2002's All That We Do.
In 2001, their song "What's the Five 0" was featured in the music video game Frequency.
In 2004, the Jungle Brothers joined with English producer Mr On to produce "Breathe (Don't Stop)", a version of "Breathe and Stop" by Q-Tip of A Tribe Called Quest, combined with a sample of Michael Jackson's "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough".
In 2005, the Jungle Brothers released a "greatest ever hiphop hits" and "classic remixes & rarities" double-CD entitled This Is..., which included remixes by The Wiseguys, Urban Takeover, Natural Born Chillers and Stereo MCs.
Defining Albums:
Queen Latifah(also refer to the Original Flavor Unit thread)
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Latifah started her career beatboxing for the rap group Ladies Fresh. In 1988, local DJ Mark the 45 King heard a demo version of Latifah's single, "Princess of the Posse", and gave the demo to Fab Five Freddy (who at the time hosted Yo! MTV Raps). Freddy helped Latifah sign with Tommy Boy Records. They released Latifah's first album, All Hail the Queen, in (1989); at the time, she was 18. This debut managed to be both a critical and commercial success and was followed by the albums Nature of a Sista and Black Reign, which contained the hit single, U.N.I.T.Y.. After releasing four rap albums (the fourth being Order in the Court, released in 1998), she released a soul/jazz standards album in 2004 called The Dana Owens Album.
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De La Soul
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De La Soul is a massively influential hip hop group, hailing from Amityville, Long Island, New York. They are best known for their eclectic sampling and quirky, surreal lyrics, and their contributions to the evolution of the jazz rap subgenre. The members are Kelvin Mercer (Posdnuos, Mercenary, Plug Wonder Why, Plug One), David Jude Jolicœur (Trugoy the Dove, Dave, Plug Two) and Vincent Mason (Pasemaster Mase, Maseo, Plug Three). The three formed the group in high school and caught the attention of producer Paul Huston (Prince Paul) with a demo tape of the song "Plug Tunin'".
Their debut album, 3 Feet High and Rising (1989), was a critical smash that saw the group labeled hippies due to the message of peace and love. They quickly became prominent members of the Zulu Nation, along with A Tribe Called Quest, Black Sheep, Queen Latifah, The Jungle Brothers and others. They were also members of the famed Native Tongues Posse and mentioned the group often in their music (though they have since left the group for various reasons). "Me, Myself and I" became a huge hit, further cementing the group's popularity. However, rock group the Turtles sued the group for sampling "You Showed Me" without permission on De La Soul's "Transmitting Live from Mars". From that point on, sampling required permission from the sources before it was released.
After 3 Feet High and Rising, De La Soul was pegged by audiences as hippies and were expected to continue creating the same type of music. This greatly agitated the group, as they always envisioned their career as a constantly changing style. This would influence their next recording sessions.
De La Soul's second album, De La Soul Is Dead (1991) was a much darker album. It featured skits that criticized the direction that hip hop was heading in at the time, though it still managed to maintain a light sense of humor. While the album is a fan favorite today, it received mixed reviews and did not sell as well as 3 Feet High and Rising.
1993's Buhloone Mindstate and 1996's Stakes Is High saw the group evolve a new sound, that although again did not garner commercial success, did cement their position as mainstays of the alternative hip hop movement.
Four years later, De La Soul announced that they would release a triple album series entitled "Art Official Intelligence" (or AOI). All three albums were intended to be released within a year, beginning with the release of Art Official Intelligence: Mosaic Thump. This was followed by AOI: Bionix in late 2001. After this, however, the public saw no release of the third and final album in the AOI series. For the next two years, the only De La Soul releases were singles or remix compilations. Jolicœur (Dave) stated in an interview that it usually takes about four years for the group to record an album, promote it with advertisements, touring and so on. The group was having trouble finishing the last AOI installment for many reasons, one of which being an ongoing struggle with Tommy Boy Records, who had been releasing their albums ever since their debut.
In 2004, De La Soul ended up releasing a new full album: The Grind Date on Sanctuary Records. Although it was not the new AOI album their fans had been anticipating, it was released to some critical acclaim and was well received by most fans. The album also receives recognition for being the seventh studio album from the group.
In 2005, they were featured on the Gorillaz single, "Feel Good Inc" and on the LA Symphony single "Universal". "Feel Good Inc" also won a Grammy for Best Pop Vocal Collaboration.
Defining Albums:
Monie Love
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Monie Love's vocals first appeared on Queen Latifah's "Ladies First", and also had a part in the remix of Whitney Houston's dance hit, "My Name Is Not Susan", in 1991. She later went on to work with many important hip hop producers, like Marley Marl, Afrika Baby Bam from the Jungle Brothers, and even Prince. She was also promoted to play the role of Synclaire in the sitcom Living Single, but the part eventually went to comedienne Kim Coles.
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*NB: This 1991 LP also the very first production credits for The Beatnuts.
A Tribe Called Quest
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A Tribe Called Quest was an influential rap group of the 1990s, originally formed in Queens, New York City in 1988. The group is comprised of Q-Tip, Phife Dawg, and DJ Ali Shaheed Muhammad. A fourth member, Jarobi, was with the group for the first album, but parted ways with the group after.
Q-Tip and Phife had grown up together in Queens, and met Muhammad in high school. The group's name was coined by The Jungle Brothers, whose members attended the same school. Soon after, the group began performing live and recording on a local label. The group became a part of the Native Tongues family, a Hip-Hop artist collective, whose membership included Tribe collaborators such as the Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, Monie Love and Black Sheep.
At the time of their inception, A Tribe Called Quest was unique within the hip hop community for eschewing gangsta rap and macho posturing. Their lyrics focused on abstract and social issues such as the word "nigger", date rape and consumerism. Musically, the group helped pioneer the jazz-rap style (along with groups such as Gang Starr and De La Soul). They made their studio debut in 1990 with People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm. Though this album was critically acclaimed and lead to a strong fan following, their next album, The Low End Theory (1991) was a massive artistic success, appearing on several best of the year lists. It is considered one of the most important hip-hop albums to date. The Low End Theory was followed by Midnight Marauders (1993), Beats, Rhymes and Life (1996) and The Love Movement (1998).
Following their final album, the group disbanded. Q-Tip and Phife Dawg went on to pursue solo careers, while Muhammad founded the R&B group Lucy Pearl.
Recently, there have been rumors of a reunion between the trio, ignited by a spate of group concert appearances around the US, but their most recent appearance was a post-Grammy concert in 2005 and there has been little news of an upcoming album, leading some to believe that the rumors may be unfounded.
Defining Albums:
Black Sheep
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Black Sheep is an alternative hip-hop duo from Queens, New York, consisting of Andres "Dres" Titus and William "Mista Lawnge" McLean. They were a part of the Native Tongues Posse, which included The Jungle Brothers, A Tribe Called Quest and De La Soul. They debuted in 1991 with the hit song "Flavor of the Month", and later released ther first album, A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing, which gained them praise and recognition in the hip-hop community for its unique rhythms and intelligent lyrics.
A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing charted 3 times on the Billboard Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart in 1992 with "The Choice Is Yours" (#9), and "Strobelite Honey" (#1). Black Sheep would also work as featured rappers on Vanessa Williams' album, Work to Do (#8). The group's second album, Non-Fiction, was seen as not living up to the group's well-established talents. Due to virtually no promotion and a generally poor reception, the album managed only lackluster sales. Titus and McLean would separate soon afterwards to attend to various independent projects. In 2000, they reunited to record a track for the movie Once in the Life. They are currently planning to release a new mixtape entitled 8WM, which is scheduled for release in the summer of 2006.
They were featured on the second Handsome Boy Modeling School album, White People on the track First...and Then.
Defining Albums:
Chi-Ali
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Former Black Sheep collaborator Chi-Ali Griffith was arrested on March 4 in the Bronx, just a week after his story appeared for a second time on "America's Most Wanted." As The 411 Online first reported in February 2000, Chi-Ali was being sought by New York police in connection with the Jan. 14, 2000, shooting and murder of his girlfriend's brother. Police allege that Chi-Ali shot Sean Raymond five times over a $300 debt and a rare collection of about 60 CDs. Police tracked him down in Atlanta in May, but missed him by about ten minutes, so they turned to "America's Most Wanted" for help. The show first aired Chi-Ali's story in November, but no solid leads were generated by the broadcast. But when "America's Most Wanted" profiled him again on Feb. 24, several viewers called in to report that Chi-Ali was in the South Bronx. One tipster called in an exact address -- 1575 Odell Street -- and a short time later a team of detectives from New York's 45th precinct arrested him. Chi-Ali, who was armed at the time of his arrest, became the 657th capture of the long-running FOX television series. Chi-Ali made his first appearance on Black Sheep's 1991 album, A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing, on the posse cut "Pass the 40." His only album, The Fabulous Chi-Ali, was released in 1992. Chi-Ali also made an appearance on former Black Sheep Dres' comeback album in 1999.
Defining Albums:
*NB: This was also the first ever album The Beatnuts had produced (except for one track produced by Mr Lawnge
Native Tongues were later re-instated as Pos said on the classic J Dilla produced "Stakes Is High" and members included...(this was circa 96-98...there isn't a Native Tongues anymore...)
Common Mos Def & Talib Kewli (aka Blackstar)
other associates included...
The Beatnuts
Shortie No Mass The Violators Da Bush Babees Lucien Revolucien, aka Papa Lu, an immigrant from France who was involved with Jungle Brothers and A Tribe Called Quest albums circa 1990
(*Hence the ATCQ track Luck of Lucien, he also rhymed on the first Beatnuts LP)
Busta Rhymes Brand Nubian
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: K-Def...
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GETTING REAL LIVE WITH K-DEF
Ask any 90’s hip-hop-fan ‘Who’s your favorite producer?’ and he’ll probably say DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Diamond D, Large Pro or Marley Marl. Chances will be slim that you hear the name K-Def. However he’s the mind behind essential productions such as Lords Of The Underground’s ‘Chief Rocka’, Da Youngstaz’ ‘Mad Props’, Intelligent Hoodlum’s ‘Grand Groove’ à nd he was one half of the group Real Live, who released their critically acclaimed album ‘The Turnaround: A Long Awaited Drama’ in 1996. In 2005, K-Def keeps doin his thing regardless; he produced a joint for ODB’s tribute album à nd he’s got a track on El Da Sensei’s new album, but before we come back on that matter, we start this interview with takin a plunge in time and lookin back at…
Your earlier productions… how do you recall workin with Monie Love and Positive K?
Working with Monie Love was okay, she is a cool person. She thought it was all about her, but I guess it was okay for her to have an attitude because she was one of the few females with a record deal. Positive K and I hooked up at Calliope Studios. I did the remix, and he accepted it the next day. I didn’t get the chance to spend a lot of time with him. I was also asked to DJ for him, but I was still in high school at the time.
There was a lot of ghostwriting goin on Monie Love's album 'In A Word Or 2'. Mainly by Marley Marl, did you write any rhymes?
I did not write any rhymes, just production.
How did you hook up with Marley Marl?
By a friend of mine, World Renown member John Doe; he was Marley’s cousin.
How close were you with the Juice Crew? Did you see a lot of the members?
The only Juice Crew members I knew were Tragedy, TJ Swan, Biz Markie, and Big Daddy Kane. I would see them when they came upstate to the studio.
You were a 'ghost producer' for Marley Marl. Which tracks are credited for Marley Marl but were actually made by you?
The Microphone Prince’s ‘Trunk Of Funk’, Marley Marl Remix, for Next Plateau was done by yours truly. ‘Funkaldelic Relic’ of LL Cool J’s ‘14 Shots To The Dome’ should have been credited to me. I did two hot joints with LL, but they never came out.
What have you learned from Marley as for production/DJ'ing? From who else did you learn?
Marley and a cool dude named Frank Heller taught me a lot about the SSL board and engineering. I was already the master at the MPC 3000 and the MPC 60. For the ‘Pirate Radio’ show, Marley showed me how to splice tape.
If there was no Marley Marl would you have had/have the same opportunities?
Eventually yes, I knew a lot of other people. I DJ’ed for a lot of New York City parties. I ran into everybody, even Russell Simmons. The Awesome Two got me plenty of gigs, so staying in the mix at that time was not a problem. After Marley heard my demo tape, he heard something he wanted to be a part of. Maybe my career would have been larger in that era, if I had stayed independent as a producer. After I left Marley, I started to run into other MC’s who were interested in working with me, but Marley was charging too much. My catalog could have been larger.
Is there a lot you still owe for production duties?
There’s still a lot of money owed to me!
You went to California for Heavy D’s ‘Nuthin But Love’ album (1994). How was it like, workin with Heavster?
I just met Heavy D, he had mad love for me and he respected my game.
So did you meet any of the other producers of that album like Pete Rock, Erick Sermon, Easy Mo Bee or Teddy Riley?
Nah, I didn’t meet any of the other producers, but I already knew Pete Rock.
How did the Artifacts single, 'It's Gettin Hot RMX' come together? You connected through El da Sensai?
Yeah, we were label mates. I like working with El Da Sensei, he gets it. I have a new track on his upcoming album ‘The Unusual’. We plan on working on a full length LP together.
Dope. By the way, the ‘It’s Getting Hot RMX’ is a Japanese only release right?
Yeah, it’s only on Japanese release, but you will be able to cop it soon at www.kdef.biz
Of all the remixes you've made, which one is your favourite?
The ‘What I’m After’ remix with Keith Murray.
Are you still down with Intelligent Hoodlum?
I have not seen him in a couple of years, but he’s my peoples for life. I hope we can re-connect in the future.
Which one do you think is his best album? 'Intelligent Hoodlum' or 'Saga of A Hoodlum'?
‘Intelligent Hoodlum’ is the best of course.
He's now about to release 'Thug Matrix'. Do you check up on a lot of producers/artists you've worked for?
I check for the real stuff, a lot of albums are trash, but there is promise out there. Shame to say, but most artists I have worked with have decided to become producers themselves and do it all, they forgot what got them their names, it’s a simple thing called ‘chemistry’.
You connected with Da Youngstaz as well, them being from Philly, how did you hook up?
I met the Da Youngstaz through Lawrence Goodman, he worked a deal out with Marley and they picked the tracks.
So how was it like to work with Lawrence Goodman?
I’m still waiting to receive publishing and royalties from that shit, till this day!
You were not on Da Youngstaz' 'The Aftermath', although Marley already produced some cuts on that album. How did you end up on 'No Mercy'?
Well actually, ‘Mad Props’ (from the ‘No Mercy’ album, red.) was a beat intended for the ‘Illmatic’ album, however the money could not be worked out. I never knew why it wasn't placed by Nas...
Tell us more about Word Renown... How long have you been down?
I knew Seven Shawn since the 80’s, he is from my hometown Passaic. Myself and John Doe worked on a ten-song demo, Marley wasn’t feeling the rhymes but clicked with the beats. So John hooked up with Seven Shawn and they formed World Renown.
World Renown had an LP coming, but it was never released. How come?
Marley did the first song ‘Come Take A Ride’ and the second song was ‘How Nice I AM’. We were forced to make the album in two weeks, and when it was finally done, World Renown was dropped including the entire black music division from Warner. Shortly after that, John Doe was on the run from federal marshals and it was over for World Renown.
Are you workin with Seven Shawn at the moment?
I have always worked with Seven Shawn. A song we worked on became ‘It’s Over’ on Ghostface’s ‘The Pretty Toney Album’. You can hear him singing the hook on that track, a small clip can be heard on the play list of my website. We are putting together his debut album, which will be available soon at www.kdef.biz.
Plenty of artists from the early 90s are findin their way back to the game, X-Clan is back, Special Ed, Donald D is on some new material, Percee P is about to release his debut album... what do you think is the reason for that? Real hip-hop is not dead yet?
Some dudes get caught up in what’s going on today, and realize it’s not them, and then go back to the basics, which are the building blocks of hip-hop. Real HIP-HOP never died, it’s still in their hearts. I’m very happy for Percee P, he never had a release of his own but he stuck with it. He should have not had to leave New York to have something happen for him.
You had some hits on the underground ('Chief Rocka' eg.) but do you never want to make it big time on a mainstream level? Make a number one hit like 45 King had with 'Hard Knock Life' and 'Stan'?
I want to have 150 ‘Hard knock Life’’s, with 150 different artists. I don’t look at it as mainstream, I look at the work.
Speaking of ‘Chief Rocka’, how did you hook up with Lords Of The Underground? You produced on all their albums.
They heard the demo I gave to Marley. The ‘Funky Child’ beat was on there and ‘Here Comes the Lords’.
The two first LOTUG albums are critically acclaimed, but their last album from 1999 wasn’t that cheered about; how come?
I only produced one track. The reaction was 'nobody liked it'.
Do you still see them a lot? Are they gonna release a new album, and if yes, have you been contacted yet?
I did some tracks with DoItAll but he had other plans, I talk to Lord Jazz online sometimes, I’m not in contact with Funkee. I wish them the best.
Is it true that Lord Finesse dissed the crew sayin they jacked 'Lord' and 'Funkyman' from him or was that over exaggerated?
(laughs) Yeah, I heard about that a couple of times too.
You also produced Sah-B's 'Some Ol Sah-B Shit'..., she was also down with LOTUG...
Me and Sha B are cool, I don’t see her anymore though.
She rhymed on De 1's 'True Homies' 12", that was produced by you right?
No, I did ‘Rather Unique’ on the B-side.
One of your biggest, long-lasting projects was the group Real Live. How long did you and Larry-O work together? It seemed like KRS-One was involved with the first break-up?
Real Live was rockin’ from 1988 to 1996. We were down with BDP, did a couple of songs with KRS-One. Larry-O had more of the relationship with the ‘Blast Master’, but we are still cool though. Larry-O had his own agenda when we broke up the first time, and so did I.
You were about to get signed to Def Jam. What happened eventually?
There was a lot of ‘hate’ in the game. So we signed with Big Beat. We had two singles with three videos, which was amazing for artists back then…, until Larry-O decided to go to the Big Beat offices and performed a violent act...
So is there any chance on a Real Live release in the future?
Maybe.
How did you end up doin a song for West Coast rapper Jayo Felony? It was kinda controversial right? Jay-Z tried to keep the single from being put out. What was the deal exactly?
I was working out of Sugar Hill Studios in Englewood at the time. They had a relationship with Motown and I was working with a lot of their artists at that time. ‘Bullet Proof Love’ (compilation on which Jayo Felony featured, red.) was a project on the plate. That nigga came to my studio at like 3 AM in the morning from California, I didn’t know who he was really. He gets in the booth and he’s rhyming like he has a problem with somebody. Well, he eventually laid it out on me, he was dissing Jay-Z. We blazed up, I laid the track and it was done by 5 AM, so he could fly back to California. A lot of people don’t understand him. I also didn’t hear any ‘answer back’-records to that track.
Would you work with Jay-Z if you had the chance?
I would love to work with him!
What's the biggest difference between producing now and fifteen years ago?
It’s a lot more of strategic music listening involved, listening for hours, just putting on a jazz record to listen to it right through. Also the computer of course.
Is this sample clearing issue a bad thing for hip-hop?
I can’t understand how the publishers of records that didn’t sell shit when it was out, can come in and take 50 - 100% of your publishing. You only took a couple seconds of their song. The artists and producers are paying for the promotion and advertising of the new work, which will put a spotlight on their past works and generate new monies. Hip-hop has been sampling, looping, scratching and recording samples since day one. They should have a share but are too fucking greedy when it’s the producers that create something new and creative, with their bullshit 3 seconds.
Do you still sample a lot?
Yes I do.
Let's talk about your production material. What do you use?
Currently I’m using a G5, Cubase, SX3, Logic Audio Pro, CDX, Reason 3.
What did you use when you started in hip-hop?
At the beginning I was using the MPC 60, S-3000, then a MPC 3000.
What music did you grow up on?
‘Say it Loud. I’m Black And I’m Proud’ (James Brown, red.), JB’s, Rolling Stones, Steel Pulse, Bob Marley, Isaac Hayes, Jazz Crusaders and Isley Brothers. I met Isaac Hayes at Marley’s studio, he wanted to meet the people responsible for ‘Grand Groove’.
Since when did you start lookin for breaks?
1978.
How many records do you have now?
70,000 records. I lost 45,000 records in a flood but thank God the others were recorded already.
What were the first hip-hop records you bought?
‘Good Times’ by Chic, ‘Rapper’s Delight’ and Kurtis Blow’s ‘The Breaks’
What other producers do you like very much? From the past?
Marley Marl, 45 King, Premo, Pete Rock, Extra P, Q-Tip, DITC, RZA, Dr. Dre and Hitmen.
Today, which producer(s) do you like?
Just Blaze, Kanye West, they keep the art of sampling alive.
if you had the chance to work with any MC, who would you chose?
Jay-Z. I could make a smash for him.
Which of the following productions do you like the most? 'Chief Rocka', 'Funky Child' or 'Real Live Shit'?
‘Real Live Shit’.
Here’s some names, tell us more…
Special K and Teddy Ted
Old School veterans that should be handling big business in this hip-hop arena. They’re hip-hop pioneers.
Redman
12 years already, and I still can’t get a joint with that nigga, that’s my man. Can somebody hook that up.
Nonchalant
I met her once, she loved the remix. And those were the days when I wasn’t supposed to be hot, and I still came through.
Return Of The Boom Bap
I made a track for that KRS-ONE classic, Marley nixed that one.
Yo MTV Raps
I loved it, I don’t know why they didn’t keep Fab Five Freddy. That was a great vehicle for hip-hop.
Any shout outs?
Ghettoman Beats, 45 King, richdirection, Seven Shawn, John Doe ‘Free John Doe’, El da Sensei, Lambda, Bse, Onfire Entertainment, Beatdawg, DJ Power, Riggs at Shady, D Prosper at G-Unit, Clark Kent at DDMG, Geno at Bad Boy, DJ Riz and DJ Eclipse.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: K-Def...
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GETTING REAL LIVE WITH K-DEF
Ask any 90’s hip-hop-fan ‘Who’s your favorite producer?’ and he’ll probably say DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Diamond D, Large Pro or Marley Marl. Chances will be slim that you hear the name K-Def. However he’s the mind behind essential productions such as Lords Of The Underground’s ‘Chief Rocka’, Da Youngstaz’ ‘Mad Props’, Intelligent Hoodlum’s ‘Grand Groove’ à nd he was one half of the group Real Live, who released their critically acclaimed album ‘The Turnaround: A Long Awaited Drama’ in 1996. In 2005, K-Def keeps doin his thing regardless; he produced a joint for ODB’s tribute album à nd he’s got a track on El Da Sensei’s new album, but before we come back on that matter, we start this interview with takin a plunge in time and lookin back at…
Your earlier productions… how do you recall workin with Monie Love and Positive K?
Working with Monie Love was okay, she is a cool person. She thought it was all about her, but I guess it was okay for her to have an attitude because she was one of the few females with a record deal. Positive K and I hooked up at Calliope Studios. I did the remix, and he accepted it the next day. I didn’t get the chance to spend a lot of time with him. I was also asked to DJ for him, but I was still in high school at the time.
There was a lot of ghostwriting goin on Monie Love's album 'In A Word Or 2'. Mainly by Marley Marl, did you write any rhymes?
I did not write any rhymes, just production.
How did you hook up with Marley Marl?
By a friend of mine, World Renown member John Doe; he was Marley’s cousin.
How close were you with the Juice Crew? Did you see a lot of the members?
The only Juice Crew members I knew were Tragedy, TJ Swan, Biz Markie, and Big Daddy Kane. I would see them when they came upstate to the studio.
You were a 'ghost producer' for Marley Marl. Which tracks are credited for Marley Marl but were actually made by you?
The Microphone Prince’s ‘Trunk Of Funk’, Marley Marl Remix, for Next Plateau was done by yours truly. ‘Funkaldelic Relic’ of LL Cool J’s ‘14 Shots To The Dome’ should have been credited to me. I did two hot joints with LL, but they never came out.
What have you learned from Marley as for production/DJ'ing? From who else did you learn?
Marley and a cool dude named Frank Heller taught me a lot about the SSL board and engineering. I was already the master at the MPC 3000 and the MPC 60. For the ‘Pirate Radio’ show, Marley showed me how to splice tape.
If there was no Marley Marl would you have had/have the same opportunities?
Eventually yes, I knew a lot of other people. I DJ’ed for a lot of New York City parties. I ran into everybody, even Russell Simmons. The Awesome Two got me plenty of gigs, so staying in the mix at that time was not a problem. After Marley heard my demo tape, he heard something he wanted to be a part of. Maybe my career would have been larger in that era, if I had stayed independent as a producer. After I left Marley, I started to run into other MC’s who were interested in working with me, but Marley was charging too much. My catalog could have been larger.
Is there a lot you still owe for production duties?
There’s still a lot of money owed to me!
You went to California for Heavy D’s ‘Nuthin But Love’ album (1994). How was it like, workin with Heavster?
I just met Heavy D, he had mad love for me and he respected my game.
So did you meet any of the other producers of that album like Pete Rock, Erick Sermon, Easy Mo Bee or Teddy Riley?
Nah, I didn’t meet any of the other producers, but I already knew Pete Rock.
How did the Artifacts single, 'It's Gettin Hot RMX' come together? You connected through El da Sensai?
Yeah, we were label mates. I like working with El Da Sensei, he gets it. I have a new track on his upcoming album ‘The Unusual’. We plan on working on a full length LP together.
Dope. By the way, the ‘It’s Getting Hot RMX’ is a Japanese only release right?
Yeah, it’s only on Japanese release, but you will be able to cop it soon at www.kdef.biz
Of all the remixes you've made, which one is your favourite?
The ‘What I’m After’ remix with Keith Murray.
Are you still down with Intelligent Hoodlum?
I have not seen him in a couple of years, but he’s my peoples for life. I hope we can re-connect in the future.
Which one do you think is his best album? 'Intelligent Hoodlum' or 'Saga of A Hoodlum'?
‘Intelligent Hoodlum’ is the best of course.
He's now about to release 'Thug Matrix'. Do you check up on a lot of producers/artists you've worked for?
I check for the real stuff, a lot of albums are trash, but there is promise out there. Shame to say, but most artists I have worked with have decided to become producers themselves and do it all, they forgot what got them their names, it’s a simple thing called ‘chemistry’.
You connected with Da Youngstaz as well, them being from Philly, how did you hook up?
I met the Da Youngstaz through Lawrence Goodman, he worked a deal out with Marley and they picked the tracks.
So how was it like to work with Lawrence Goodman?
I’m still waiting to receive publishing and royalties from that shit, till this day!
You were not on Da Youngstaz' 'The Aftermath', although Marley already produced some cuts on that album. How did you end up on 'No Mercy'?
Well actually, ‘Mad Props’ (from the ‘No Mercy’ album, red.) was a beat intended for the ‘Illmatic’ album, however the money could not be worked out. I never knew why it wasn't placed by Nas...
Tell us more about Word Renown... How long have you been down?
I knew Seven Shawn since the 80’s, he is from my hometown Passaic. Myself and John Doe worked on a ten-song demo, Marley wasn’t feeling the rhymes but clicked with the beats. So John hooked up with Seven Shawn and they formed World Renown.
World Renown had an LP coming, but it was never released. How come?
Marley did the first song ‘Come Take A Ride’ and the second song was ‘How Nice I AM’. We were forced to make the album in two weeks, and when it was finally done, World Renown was dropped including the entire black music division from Warner. Shortly after that, John Doe was on the run from federal marshals and it was over for World Renown.
Are you workin with Seven Shawn at the moment?
I have always worked with Seven Shawn. A song we worked on became ‘It’s Over’ on Ghostface’s ‘The Pretty Toney Album’. You can hear him singing the hook on that track, a small clip can be heard on the play list of my website. We are putting together his debut album, which will be available soon at www.kdef.biz.
Plenty of artists from the early 90s are findin their way back to the game, X-Clan is back, Special Ed, Donald D is on some new material, Percee P is about to release his debut album... what do you think is the reason for that? Real hip-hop is not dead yet?
Some dudes get caught up in what’s going on today, and realize it’s not them, and then go back to the basics, which are the building blocks of hip-hop. Real HIP-HOP never died, it’s still in their hearts. I’m very happy for Percee P, he never had a release of his own but he stuck with it. He should have not had to leave New York to have something happen for him.
You had some hits on the underground ('Chief Rocka' eg.) but do you never want to make it big time on a mainstream level? Make a number one hit like 45 King had with 'Hard Knock Life' and 'Stan'?
I want to have 150 ‘Hard knock Life’’s, with 150 different artists. I don’t look at it as mainstream, I look at the work.
Speaking of ‘Chief Rocka’, how did you hook up with Lords Of The Underground? You produced on all their albums.
They heard the demo I gave to Marley. The ‘Funky Child’ beat was on there and ‘Here Comes the Lords’.
The two first LOTUG albums are critically acclaimed, but their last album from 1999 wasn’t that cheered about; how come?
I only produced one track. The reaction was 'nobody liked it'.
Do you still see them a lot? Are they gonna release a new album, and if yes, have you been contacted yet?
I did some tracks with DoItAll but he had other plans, I talk to Lord Jazz online sometimes, I’m not in contact with Funkee. I wish them the best.
Is it true that Lord Finesse dissed the crew sayin they jacked 'Lord' and 'Funkyman' from him or was that over exaggerated?
(laughs) Yeah, I heard about that a couple of times too.
You also produced Sah-B's 'Some Ol Sah-B Shit'..., she was also down with LOTUG...
Me and Sha B are cool, I don’t see her anymore though.
She rhymed on De 1's 'True Homies' 12", that was produced by you right?
No, I did ‘Rather Unique’ on the B-side.
One of your biggest, long-lasting projects was the group Real Live. How long did you and Larry-O work together? It seemed like KRS-One was involved with the first break-up?
Real Live was rockin’ from 1988 to 1996. We were down with BDP, did a couple of songs with KRS-One. Larry-O had more of the relationship with the ‘Blast Master’, but we are still cool though. Larry-O had his own agenda when we broke up the first time, and so did I.
You were about to get signed to Def Jam. What happened eventually?
There was a lot of ‘hate’ in the game. So we signed with Big Beat. We had two singles with three videos, which was amazing for artists back then…, until Larry-O decided to go to the Big Beat offices and performed a violent act...
So is there any chance on a Real Live release in the future?
Maybe.
How did you end up doin a song for West Coast rapper Jayo Felony? It was kinda controversial right? Jay-Z tried to keep the single from being put out. What was the deal exactly?
I was working out of Sugar Hill Studios in Englewood at the time. They had a relationship with Motown and I was working with a lot of their artists at that time. ‘Bullet Proof Love’ (compilation on which Jayo Felony featured, red.) was a project on the plate. That nigga came to my studio at like 3 AM in the morning from California, I didn’t know who he was really. He gets in the booth and he’s rhyming like he has a problem with somebody. Well, he eventually laid it out on me, he was dissing Jay-Z. We blazed up, I laid the track and it was done by 5 AM, so he could fly back to California. A lot of people don’t understand him. I also didn’t hear any ‘answer back’-records to that track.
Would you work with Jay-Z if you had the chance?
I would love to work with him!
What's the biggest difference between producing now and fifteen years ago?
It’s a lot more of strategic music listening involved, listening for hours, just putting on a jazz record to listen to it right through. Also the computer of course.
Is this sample clearing issue a bad thing for hip-hop?
I can’t understand how the publishers of records that didn’t sell shit when it was out, can come in and take 50 - 100% of your publishing. You only took a couple seconds of their song. The artists and producers are paying for the promotion and advertising of the new work, which will put a spotlight on their past works and generate new monies. Hip-hop has been sampling, looping, scratching and recording samples since day one. They should have a share but are too fucking greedy when it’s the producers that create something new and creative, with their bullshit 3 seconds.
Do you still sample a lot?
Yes I do.
Let's talk about your production material. What do you use?
Currently I’m using a G5, Cubase, SX3, Logic Audio Pro, CDX, Reason 3.
What did you use when you started in hip-hop?
At the beginning I was using the MPC 60, S-3000, then a MPC 3000.
What music did you grow up on?
‘Say it Loud. I’m Black And I’m Proud’ (James Brown, red.), JB’s, Rolling Stones, Steel Pulse, Bob Marley, Isaac Hayes, Jazz Crusaders and Isley Brothers. I met Isaac Hayes at Marley’s studio, he wanted to meet the people responsible for ‘Grand Groove’.
Since when did you start lookin for breaks?
1978.
How many records do you have now?
70,000 records. I lost 45,000 records in a flood but thank God the others were recorded already.
What were the first hip-hop records you bought?
‘Good Times’ by Chic, ‘Rapper’s Delight’ and Kurtis Blow’s ‘The Breaks’
What other producers do you like very much? From the past?
Marley Marl, 45 King, Premo, Pete Rock, Extra P, Q-Tip, DITC, RZA, Dr. Dre and Hitmen.
Today, which producer(s) do you like?
Just Blaze, Kanye West, they keep the art of sampling alive.
if you had the chance to work with any MC, who would you chose?
Jay-Z. I could make a smash for him.
Which of the following productions do you like the most? 'Chief Rocka', 'Funky Child' or 'Real Live Shit'?
‘Real Live Shit’.
Here’s some names, tell us more…
Special K and Teddy Ted
Old School veterans that should be handling big business in this hip-hop arena. They’re hip-hop pioneers.
Redman
12 years already, and I still can’t get a joint with that nigga, that’s my man. Can somebody hook that up.
Nonchalant
I met her once, she loved the remix. And those were the days when I wasn’t supposed to be hot, and I still came through.
Return Of The Boom Bap
I made a track for that KRS-ONE classic, Marley nixed that one.
Yo MTV Raps
I loved it, I don’t know why they didn’t keep Fab Five Freddy. That was a great vehicle for hip-hop.
Any shout outs?
Ghettoman Beats, 45 King, richdirection, Seven Shawn, John Doe ‘Free John Doe’, El da Sensei, Lambda, Bse, Onfire Entertainment, Beatdawg, DJ Power, Riggs at Shady, D Prosper at G-Unit, Clark Kent at DDMG, Geno at Bad Boy, DJ Riz and DJ Eclipse.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:01 am Post subject: K-Def...
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GETTING REAL LIVE WITH K-DEF
Ask any 90’s hip-hop-fan ‘Who’s your favorite producer?’ and he’ll probably say DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Diamond D, Large Pro or Marley Marl. Chances will be slim that you hear the name K-Def. However he’s the mind behind essential productions such as Lords Of The Underground’s ‘Chief Rocka’, Da Youngstaz’ ‘Mad Props’, Intelligent Hoodlum’s ‘Grand Groove’ à nd he was one half of the group Real Live, who released their critically acclaimed album ‘The Turnaround: A Long Awaited Drama’ in 1996. In 2005, K-Def keeps doin his thing regardless; he produced a joint for ODB’s tribute album à nd he’s got a track on El Da Sensei’s new album, but before we come back on that matter, we start this interview with takin a plunge in time and lookin back at…
Your earlier productions… how do you recall workin with Monie Love and Positive K?
Working with Monie Love was okay, she is a cool person. She thought it was all about her, but I guess it was okay for her to have an attitude because she was one of the few females with a record deal. Positive K and I hooked up at Calliope Studios. I did the remix, and he accepted it the next day. I didn’t get the chance to spend a lot of time with him. I was also asked to DJ for him, but I was still in high school at the time.
There was a lot of ghostwriting goin on Monie Love's album 'In A Word Or 2'. Mainly by Marley Marl, did you write any rhymes?
I did not write any rhymes, just production.
How did you hook up with Marley Marl?
By a friend of mine, World Renown member John Doe; he was Marley’s cousin.
How close were you with the Juice Crew? Did you see a lot of the members?
The only Juice Crew members I knew were Tragedy, TJ Swan, Biz Markie, and Big Daddy Kane. I would see them when they came upstate to the studio.
You were a 'ghost producer' for Marley Marl. Which tracks are credited for Marley Marl but were actually made by you?
The Microphone Prince’s ‘Trunk Of Funk’, Marley Marl Remix, for Next Plateau was done by yours truly. ‘Funkaldelic Relic’ of LL Cool J’s ‘14 Shots To The Dome’ should have been credited to me. I did two hot joints with LL, but they never came out.
What have you learned from Marley as for production/DJ'ing? From who else did you learn?
Marley and a cool dude named Frank Heller taught me a lot about the SSL board and engineering. I was already the master at the MPC 3000 and the MPC 60. For the ‘Pirate Radio’ show, Marley showed me how to splice tape.
If there was no Marley Marl would you have had/have the same opportunities?
Eventually yes, I knew a lot of other people. I DJ’ed for a lot of New York City parties. I ran into everybody, even Russell Simmons. The Awesome Two got me plenty of gigs, so staying in the mix at that time was not a problem. After Marley heard my demo tape, he heard something he wanted to be a part of. Maybe my career would have been larger in that era, if I had stayed independent as a producer. After I left Marley, I started to run into other MC’s who were interested in working with me, but Marley was charging too much. My catalog could have been larger.
Is there a lot you still owe for production duties?
There’s still a lot of money owed to me!
You went to California for Heavy D’s ‘Nuthin But Love’ album (1994). How was it like, workin with Heavster?
I just met Heavy D, he had mad love for me and he respected my game.
So did you meet any of the other producers of that album like Pete Rock, Erick Sermon, Easy Mo Bee or Teddy Riley?
Nah, I didn’t meet any of the other producers, but I already knew Pete Rock.
How did the Artifacts single, 'It's Gettin Hot RMX' come together? You connected through El da Sensai?
Yeah, we were label mates. I like working with El Da Sensei, he gets it. I have a new track on his upcoming album ‘The Unusual’. We plan on working on a full length LP together.
Dope. By the way, the ‘It’s Getting Hot RMX’ is a Japanese only release right?
Yeah, it’s only on Japanese release, but you will be able to cop it soon at www.kdef.biz
Of all the remixes you've made, which one is your favourite?
The ‘What I’m After’ remix with Keith Murray.
Are you still down with Intelligent Hoodlum?
I have not seen him in a couple of years, but he’s my peoples for life. I hope we can re-connect in the future.
Which one do you think is his best album? 'Intelligent Hoodlum' or 'Saga of A Hoodlum'?
‘Intelligent Hoodlum’ is the best of course.
He's now about to release 'Thug Matrix'. Do you check up on a lot of producers/artists you've worked for?
I check for the real stuff, a lot of albums are trash, but there is promise out there. Shame to say, but most artists I have worked with have decided to become producers themselves and do it all, they forgot what got them their names, it’s a simple thing called ‘chemistry’.
You connected with Da Youngstaz as well, them being from Philly, how did you hook up?
I met the Da Youngstaz through Lawrence Goodman, he worked a deal out with Marley and they picked the tracks.
So how was it like to work with Lawrence Goodman?
I’m still waiting to receive publishing and royalties from that shit, till this day!
You were not on Da Youngstaz' 'The Aftermath', although Marley already produced some cuts on that album. How did you end up on 'No Mercy'?
Well actually, ‘Mad Props’ (from the ‘No Mercy’ album, red.) was a beat intended for the ‘Illmatic’ album, however the money could not be worked out. I never knew why it wasn't placed by Nas...
Tell us more about Word Renown... How long have you been down?
I knew Seven Shawn since the 80’s, he is from my hometown Passaic. Myself and John Doe worked on a ten-song demo, Marley wasn’t feeling the rhymes but clicked with the beats. So John hooked up with Seven Shawn and they formed World Renown.
World Renown had an LP coming, but it was never released. How come?
Marley did the first song ‘Come Take A Ride’ and the second song was ‘How Nice I AM’. We were forced to make the album in two weeks, and when it was finally done, World Renown was dropped including the entire black music division from Warner. Shortly after that, John Doe was on the run from federal marshals and it was over for World Renown.
Are you workin with Seven Shawn at the moment?
I have always worked with Seven Shawn. A song we worked on became ‘It’s Over’ on Ghostface’s ‘The Pretty Toney Album’. You can hear him singing the hook on that track, a small clip can be heard on the play list of my website. We are putting together his debut album, which will be available soon at www.kdef.biz.
Plenty of artists from the early 90s are findin their way back to the game, X-Clan is back, Special Ed, Donald D is on some new material, Percee P is about to release his debut album... what do you think is the reason for that? Real hip-hop is not dead yet?
Some dudes get caught up in what’s going on today, and realize it’s not them, and then go back to the basics, which are the building blocks of hip-hop. Real HIP-HOP never died, it’s still in their hearts. I’m very happy for Percee P, he never had a release of his own but he stuck with it. He should have not had to leave New York to have something happen for him.
You had some hits on the underground ('Chief Rocka' eg.) but do you never want to make it big time on a mainstream level? Make a number one hit like 45 King had with 'Hard Knock Life' and 'Stan'?
I want to have 150 ‘Hard knock Life’’s, with 150 different artists. I don’t look at it as mainstream, I look at the work.
Speaking of ‘Chief Rocka’, how did you hook up with Lords Of The Underground? You produced on all their albums.
They heard the demo I gave to Marley. The ‘Funky Child’ beat was on there and ‘Here Comes the Lords’.
The two first LOTUG albums are critically acclaimed, but their last album from 1999 wasn’t that cheered about; how come?
I only produced one track. The reaction was 'nobody liked it'.
Do you still see them a lot? Are they gonna release a new album, and if yes, have you been contacted yet?
I did some tracks with DoItAll but he had other plans, I talk to Lord Jazz online sometimes, I’m not in contact with Funkee. I wish them the best.
Is it true that Lord Finesse dissed the crew sayin they jacked 'Lord' and 'Funkyman' from him or was that over exaggerated?
(laughs) Yeah, I heard about that a couple of times too.
You also produced Sah-B's 'Some Ol Sah-B Shit'..., she was also down with LOTUG...
Me and Sha B are cool, I don’t see her anymore though.
She rhymed on De 1's 'True Homies' 12", that was produced by you right?
No, I did ‘Rather Unique’ on the B-side.
One of your biggest, long-lasting projects was the group Real Live. How long did you and Larry-O work together? It seemed like KRS-One was involved with the first break-up?
Real Live was rockin’ from 1988 to 1996. We were down with BDP, did a couple of songs with KRS-One. Larry-O had more of the relationship with the ‘Blast Master’, but we are still cool though. Larry-O had his own agenda when we broke up the first time, and so did I.
You were about to get signed to Def Jam. What happened eventually?
There was a lot of ‘hate’ in the game. So we signed with Big Beat. We had two singles with three videos, which was amazing for artists back then…, until Larry-O decided to go to the Big Beat offices and performed a violent act...
So is there any chance on a Real Live release in the future?
Maybe.
How did you end up doin a song for West Coast rapper Jayo Felony? It was kinda controversial right? Jay-Z tried to keep the single from being put out. What was the deal exactly?
I was working out of Sugar Hill Studios in Englewood at the time. They had a relationship with Motown and I was working with a lot of their artists at that time. ‘Bullet Proof Love’ (compilation on which Jayo Felony featured, red.) was a project on the plate. That nigga came to my studio at like 3 AM in the morning from California, I didn’t know who he was really. He gets in the booth and he’s rhyming like he has a problem with somebody. Well, he eventually laid it out on me, he was dissing Jay-Z. We blazed up, I laid the track and it was done by 5 AM, so he could fly back to California. A lot of people don’t understand him. I also didn’t hear any ‘answer back’-records to that track.
Would you work with Jay-Z if you had the chance?
I would love to work with him!
What's the biggest difference between producing now and fifteen years ago?
It’s a lot more of strategic music listening involved, listening for hours, just putting on a jazz record to listen to it right through. Also the computer of course.
Is this sample clearing issue a bad thing for hip-hop?
I can’t understand how the publishers of records that didn’t sell shit when it was out, can come in and take 50 - 100% of your publishing. You only took a couple seconds of their song. The artists and producers are paying for the promotion and advertising of the new work, which will put a spotlight on their past works and generate new monies. Hip-hop has been sampling, looping, scratching and recording samples since day one. They should have a share but are too fucking greedy when it’s the producers that create something new and creative, with their bullshit 3 seconds.
Do you still sample a lot?
Yes I do.
Let's talk about your production material. What do you use?
Currently I’m using a G5, Cubase, SX3, Logic Audio Pro, CDX, Reason 3.
What did you use when you started in hip-hop?
At the beginning I was using the MPC 60, S-3000, then a MPC 3000.
What music did you grow up on?
‘Say it Loud. I’m Black And I’m Proud’ (James Brown, red.), JB’s, Rolling Stones, Steel Pulse, Bob Marley, Isaac Hayes, Jazz Crusaders and Isley Brothers. I met Isaac Hayes at Marley’s studio, he wanted to meet the people responsible for ‘Grand Groove’.
Since when did you start lookin for breaks?
1978.
How many records do you have now?
70,000 records. I lost 45,000 records in a flood but thank God the others were recorded already.
What were the first hip-hop records you bought?
‘Good Times’ by Chic, ‘Rapper’s Delight’ and Kurtis Blow’s ‘The Breaks’
What other producers do you like very much? From the past?
Marley Marl, 45 King, Premo, Pete Rock, Extra P, Q-Tip, DITC, RZA, Dr. Dre and Hitmen.
Today, which producer(s) do you like?
Just Blaze, Kanye West, they keep the art of sampling alive.
if you had the chance to work with any MC, who would you chose?
Jay-Z. I could make a smash for him.
Which of the following productions do you like the most? 'Chief Rocka', 'Funky Child' or 'Real Live Shit'?
‘Real Live Shit’.
Here’s some names, tell us more…
Special K and Teddy Ted
Old School veterans that should be handling big business in this hip-hop arena. They’re hip-hop pioneers.
Redman
12 years already, and I still can’t get a joint with that nigga, that’s my man. Can somebody hook that up.
Nonchalant
I met her once, she loved the remix. And those were the days when I wasn’t supposed to be hot, and I still came through.
Return Of The Boom Bap
I made a track for that KRS-ONE classic, Marley nixed that one.
Yo MTV Raps
I loved it, I don’t know why they didn’t keep Fab Five Freddy. That was a great vehicle for hip-hop.
Any shout outs?
Ghettoman Beats, 45 King, richdirection, Seven Shawn, John Doe ‘Free John Doe’, El da Sensei, Lambda, Bse, Onfire Entertainment, Beatdawg, DJ Power, Riggs at Shady, D Prosper at G-Unit, Clark Kent at DDMG, Geno at Bad Boy, DJ Riz and DJ Eclipse.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: Paul C...2 Incredible articles...
This was first published in Big Daddy Magazine...an incredible read about the late great influential producer.
Traveling at the Speed of Thought
There's been some thought 'round these parts about some of the great stories in hip-hop that rarely find their way to the surface. Then some cats on the Okayplayer boards were asking about Paul C- who he was, his legacy, his death. Thought it'd be good to dig in the archives and pull this story out, by Dave Tompkins, the most comprehensive piece on Paul C ever written.
This story's origins began somewhere in the office of 360hiphop around 2001, those halcyon days of internet-media revolution. The story was published after about three months of work, but the hubris of the site's upper-management had created a space that few people could actually access, tricked-out computers or not. Luckily DT found a print home for it eventually, with Big Daddy. Still, just wanted to put out the word of where it came from first.
That 360 crew we had was no joke: jeff chang, caramanica, dave tompkins, kris ex, hua hsu, sly stallone (where is you man?), egon, etc. Maybe some more from those archives should go up in the next few weeks.
Anyway, here's the piece for folks to read. It was absolutely unbelievable to edit; Tompkins was just on some other shit. Enjoy.
He produced the Ultramagnetic MCs and Eric B & Rakim. He perfected techniques like the "chop" and "pan." He taught Large Professor everything he knows. And he died in 1989 at the age of 24. Paul C is the most influential producer you've never read about – until now. This is a 360 report on a man and his music.
RETURN TO THE WORLD AS A THOUGHT
by Dave Tompkins
1
Spring, 1969. Someone’s digits were stubbed to the nub, hitting the piano so hard that it bounced across the planks, out the door and into a sun that beat hotter than Georgia asphalt. It left vapor trails of hot pants and everybody was after it. The song? "There Was A Time" by the Dee Felice Trio, an early James Brown production on his People imprint. Besides the piano that knocked cuticles into knuckles, the trio were nice enough to mix their gamboling upright bass in the left channel of the speaker. And in the right channel, the drums – the drums that changed hip-hop.
Drums that changed hip hop?
Right.
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"Play MC Ultra as a warning sign of my skill."
--Kool Keith, "Give The Drummer Some"
Pan across the decades to 1987. Jamaica, Queens, New York. At 1212 Union Hall Street, you’ll find a booming cranny called Studio 1212. It shares rent with a Muslim community center and a rehearsal space where Metallica once dwelled, blocks from LL Cool J's "Bristol Hotel." Deep within, somewhere between a SP-12 drum machine and a 1200 turntable, sits studio engineer Paul McKasty, or as hip-hop would have it, Paul C. Across from him are the Ultramagnetic MCs who, as skill would have it, are working on an album that would change hip-hop. Marley Marl had already done his part by introducing sampling in ‘86. By adopting this five-finger discount marvel of technology, Ultramagnetic would introduce hip-hop to Dee Felice. Satellites are getting dim and Kool Keith’s twinkling, ready to grill some brains. At this point in the recording, Ultra’s already done “Feelin It,†and they made a friend for life by using two seconds of unturned drum from James Brown’s “Get Up Get Into It Get Involved,†something Marley would set off every which way.
So things are going swimmingly.
Paul C’s been chasing drums in the right channel all night and wants to run a new beat he's concocted by the group. He pushes play and Dee Felice’s drums bust out of the (right) speaker, beating their snarey chest with more snap in their bap, more mug-wumph to their bump. Horns exchange blasts with guitar riffs, and a sax burns rubber across the track, leaving your face with a skid-mark handlebar moustache. This would become the masterpiece "Give The Drummer Some." Here, Keith rhymes about "funky extensions," and faster than a switch-up, the track sprouts one: a roll from "Funky Drummer" fills in for two seconds and then it's back to Dee's "Time" being pounded senseless. "Give The Drummer Some†is Paul C's single production credit on Ultra's debut. The original "funky drummer," Clyde Stubblefield, got a lot. Paul treated him right by isolating his stickin’ moves as if Clyde was the soloist. Felice yourself!
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"There Was a Time" and Paul C was ahead of his. It was as if Ced Gee called it when, in ’86, he rhymed over the Dynamic Corvette cowbell stabs of Ultra’s “Funky Potion†and said, "Anticipating laws concerning realized composition." When Paul C crashed "Funky Drummer" into Dee's "Time," isolating the drums in the meantime, it was a profound moment in hip-hop history: the introduction, essentially, of the "chop" and the "pan," techniques forever repeated that would change the music at the rate Kool Keith turns his Budweiser painter-cap sideways.
Paul C was a master at innovating such production techniques with confining technology, trumping the sound of even today's advancements. Paul C's ideas were not in the lab's job description. His story is a mutation of a theme essential to hip-hop: making the most of limited means. It's the plug in the park lamppost or taking the two copies of a break and turning five seconds into five minutes of funk.
Ask Ultra's TR Love when "Give The Drummer's" rhymes were written and he laughs, "Shit…(we'd) just lay it down and let it go. Paul didn't let us know he was doing the track. He just dropped it on us." Until then, Paul C was on Ultra's groove support, adding a roll here or putting some extra ass on the bass there. "The fun thing was making records with him," remembers Keith. "He really cared about our music. He gave it ("Drummer") that sharp snare. He traded drum kicks with (TR Love). There in the late-night ghost sessions, he giggled at my lyrics looking through the window."
Ask Large Professor, erstwhile Main Source frontman who "drops skills over drum fills,†about Paul’s Ultra beat and he says: "Paul C panned the record, then he just flipped out on the programming. It was crazy.†Extra P says, “It was crazy†three more times and grimaces like it’s so good, it’s McNasty. Large Professor knows because Paul C was his mentor, teaching him the SP-12 sampler and other prestidigitations that allowed the Extra P to "get busy over unknown tracks." On the back of Main Source's Breaking Atoms, the credits read, "Paul C Lives." And he did in a way, through the Extra P. So indebted was he to the knowledge and skill he gleaned from Paul C, Large Pro named his publishing after him, Paul Sea Music.
“Ultramagnetic was schooling a lot of cats with their music," says Pete Rock, a chop off the Marley Marl block. "I always listened to 'Give The Drummer Some,' trying to figure it out. I thought maybe (Paul C) knew someone at Polygram that had James Brown’s reels. There’s no way in the world he could sample (Dee Felice) and take the sounds out. Those are the illest drums I ever heard.â€
"That was sick, waaayyy ahead of its time,†agrees Rahzel, the inhuman beatbox who worked with Paul C in ’85. “He could take a tin can and make it sound like elephants running through a jungle. Listen to a lot of Ultra’s stuff and you can see where sound changed. The only person that came close to his engineering abilities was Bob Power."
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On the back of Stezo's "Freak The Funk" single and Eric B. & Rakim’s Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em LP, you’ll find snapshots of a white guy and the inscriptions "In Memory Of Paul C." At the fade of Organized Konfusion’s "Fudge Pudge," Monch, Prince Poetry and OC are chanting, “To the organisms! Paul C! To the organisms! Let the beat ride…"
That’s about all that is known about Paul C – his name and his musical fingerprint. He was white, Irish and, at times, called Barney Rubble. Most knew him as the nice guy with the ridiculous record collection. On July 17th, 1989, the 24 year-old producer was found murdered in his Rosedale, Queens home, shot three times in his head and neck. To this day, nobody knows who killed him or, more importantly, why. That night, Biz Markie was on his way to Studio 1212 to work with Paul on his Diabolical LP. Paul C had just produced a demo for Organized Konfusion and mixed Stezo's classic Crazy Noise LP. The last thing he produced was Eric B. & Rakim’s Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em (though the credits indicate otherwise). Latifah was supposed to be next.
Things were good for hip-hop in and around the turn of the decade. Master Ace rhymed with himself-as-Biz-Markie, over the journeyman's bassline from Cymande's "Message." KMD was mixing Sesame Street puppets with The Isley Brothers. There were the stratified derangements of the Bomb Squad (Ice Cube, Public Enemy), and, yo and behold, what's that in the left channel? Hitman Howie Tee had plucked the Dee Felice bassline for Chubb Rock’s "Treat ‘Em Right." Sound is a spiritual medium and it sounded like Paul C was also lab-slabbin' on Eric B. & Rakim's "The Ghetto," and on Large Professor's beats on Main Source's "Looking at the Front Door" and Kool G Rap's "Streets of New York."
But Paul C’s death came just after NWA’s Straight Outta Compton and two years before The Chronic. There were going to be more Gs, decimal points and opportunity in hip-hop, and though Paul C loathed contracts, they became a necessity. (Large Professor says Paul C was listening to a lot of NWA so imagine what Kool G. Rap would’ve done over those drums of death?) At the time he passed, producers like DJ Premier, Pete Rock and Large Professor were just getting their chops and pans together – techniques they directly or indirectly learned from Paul C.
Like an engineer’s subtle tweaks, Paul's presence is felt in hip-hop music but few are aware they're hearing him. As long as the sound's bangin', who cares? Paul C's found in the ghost notes, the incidental sounds created when samples react to each other in the same space. "A lot of producers won’t admit to it but they changed their sound after hearing Paul C,†says Rahzel. "They were like, 'Oh, I gotta sound like this shit.'"
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Paul C’s undefined role as mixer, engineer and producer makes you wonder just how many beats he actually did create. His paws are all over Superlover Cee & Casanova Rud’s classic "Do The James," (credited to Calliente aka Superlover Cee). The producer’s role in hip-hop today is as songwriter, music maker. Back then, "mixing, arranging and engineering" could've very well meant finding the loop and hooking it up. And "producer" was the guy who ganked the guy who found the loop and hooked it up. Today, the credited "producer" sometimes ganks the guy who actually produced it because he banked the guy who found the loop and hooked it up. Now that that’s clear…
"He was on some unmade up shit, you can't even describe it," says Organized's Prince Poetry. The Queens duo were signed on the strength of their Paul C-produced demo, eerily being approached by labels at the producer's funeral. Then there’s people who say Paul C didn’t exist, rather he was a Jamie Starr alter-ego of Large Professor, also named Paul. The mythology surrounding Paul C stems from how he wasn’t mysterious, at least to the people who knew him. The consensus is “He’s was a cool white guy who knew records and made dope beats.â€
Remembers TR Love: "Ced Gee told me that nigga Paul C is nice and then I meet him and I was like ‘Who the fuck is this?’ When you call a white boy a nigga, he has some type of skill, he’s down."
“The way he spoke, if you weren’t looking at him you wouldn’t know (he was white),†recalls Large Professor. “I was still in my teens then. It let me know people are people. It did a lot for me."
Adds Rahzel, "There was nothing crazy about him, just cool."
"You look at him and he got on faded jeans, a fat pair of sneakers and an old Gang Starr t-shirt or a sweatshirt with a hole in it," remembers Prince Poetry. Paul C not only helped Monch and Poetry transform from Simply Too Positive into Organized Konfusion but he was a close friend. “He was hip-hop but wasn’t phoney about it. He was more into throwing on that James Brown cut that niggas couldn’t find.â€
"When you’re taught the bare essence of music and how to love it and define what’s funk to you. Paul C spent so much with it. He got so good I don’t think he knew how good he was. He always worked off friendship; he didn’t like doing contractual work. Very open hearted person. He just loved the music so much he didn’t want to mess with nothin' that was wack. Everything he touched he wanted to be funky."
Before Ultramagnetic, Paul C produced early Queens groups Mikey D & L.A. Posse and Marauder & The Fury (“Get Loose Mother Gooseâ€) on Public Records. A green-eyed pioneer, Mikey once gave a young Cool J his Ls and, in ‘93, returned from obscurity to become Main Source’s headmaster after Large Professor bolted out the front door. Irony abounds. With Paul C on the "Brick House" beat, Mikey D’s "I Get Rough" sounds like LL backed by Fresh Gordon’s crushing drums. “I liked that stuff because it reminded me of Mantronix, except the drums were heavier and louder," says Cut Chemist, who cites Paul C as a big influence.
"I Get Rough" also debuted Rahzel as a cazal-fogging “huh!†as Paul C had chopped up Rahzel’s beatbox for the song. Paul C told Rahzel that the drums are his voice and assigned him tapes of Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath and James Brown to memorize. Like a hog burping through a distortion pedal, Rahzel’s patented “brwoinrrrnnw!†was the result of Paul C teaching him guitar stabs. Like Rick Rubin, Paul C heard hip-hop in rock. "He’d tell me to break down each instrument and then put it all together whole," Rahzel says. "He said, ‘The way you should sound over a microphone, no one should be able to tell that it’s a human.' He was one of the first to put together a song that was all vocals. The only person who came close to what Paul was doing was Bobby McFerrin. And this is ‘85. He used a tape of my vocals to put together a song that was all vocals."
Rahzel then recites Paul C’s remix of himself and it’s akin to the melody Alchemist used for Dilated Peoples’ "Annihilation." Six degrees of chopping never ends: Pete Rock has said Alchemist’s production reminds him of Paul C and Rahzel recently worked with Pete Rock. On Main Source’s "Just Hangin Out,†Large Professor is “with Pete Rock making beats sharper than cleats.†All of this, of course, pieced together by Paul C’s influence.
Rahzel also beatboxes James Brown’s "Stoned To The Bone." No wait, he’s beatboxing "I Got A Good Thing (remix)" by Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud, produced by Paul C in 1988. Rahzel emulates the track, from its guitar stabs to The JB’s "ooh!" shrieks. Rud and Cee added layers of syncopated rhymes (“My beat is your choreographerâ€) over Paul’s C’s high end tambourine jangles, a production trait that could be likened to Large Professor’s later obsession with the sleigh bells.
On “Do The James,†Paul blended “Impeach The President†(the first thing Marley stabbed with his SP-12) with the descending guitar frolics of James Brown’s “Blues And Pants,†the uptown riff that had every R&B diva writhing to Big’s “Dreams…"
"It’s still the biggest I’ve ever heard ‘Impeach the President,'†says Large Professor. "That’s how good of engineer he was."
"'Do The James' was the blend of the century,†adds Cut Chemist. In the words of Positive K and LG: “It’s a good combination."
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There was a time. It goes back to the speakers. This time Paul’s in the left channel, alone again with the same song by Dee Felice Trio. This time, the swinging bassline gets the starting nod and, before Hitman Howie Tee jacked it for "Treat ‘Em Right," "There Was A Time" becomes Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud’s “It Gets No Deeper.†Oh, but it does.
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Wheeze back and return to a world out of breath. We’re trying to catch one in particular, a respiration before Kraftwerk swerved its automotives to electro and hopped on a Huffy for "Tour De France." Pedal out of those bicycle pants, whiz along the funky back porch routes of Georgia, 1969, pass through James Brown’s "Pants and Blues," Dee Felice Trio’s "There Was A Time" and cut across to the Motor City, 1974.
Here, the factories hack, the hoary sky stoops down to inhale and "The Assembly Line," a song by the Commodores, says: don’t be a human piston. Its beat would become a catchphrase in hip-hop production by artists like Kool G Rap and Third Bass. Four minutes after the solemn guitar part plucked by the Jungle Brothers (for "Black Woman"), drummer Walter Orange beats the breath out of his kit and the Commodores harmonize a "huh." Their one-note blow announces a cymballistic break that would propel Eric B & Rakim's "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em," produced by this story's hero, Paul C. Paul's sampled "huh" is barely recognizable from the Lionel Ritchie original; he must've starved it through the mixing console 'cause it's thinned out and ghostly, as if on life support.
On the song, Rakim rhymes, "At least when he left he'll know what hit 'im / The last breath of the words of death was the rhythm." "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em" is Paul C's last production breath on record before he was murdered in the summer of 1989.
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"If I’ve got one breath left / I’ll suck wind from the Valley of Death"
--Pharoahe Monch "Releasing Hypnotical Gases"
"Huh?" was Pharoahe Monch’s response when, one day in 1988, Paul C rang him up to say he wanted to work with his and Prince Poetry's group, Simply Too Positive. Let’s call it a heave-“huhhhhhh?†because Paul C gave Pharoahe Monch an asthma attack. "That was the first time I really had an attack from hearing some exciting news," remembers Monch, an MC who hits the inhaler while others fly Cronkites. "I got that phone call and was like [gasping], 'Damn, we're going to work with Paul C!' His record preceded him already – with Ultramagnetic and Casanova Rud."
Paul produced the group's demo, taking interest after hearing only four bars of rhyme. He popped in when Studio 1212 engineer CJ Moore was hooking up Cymande's "Bra" for the first STP session. The STP demo would have any Organized Konfusion fan making fudge pudge in his pants. You may snicker at the name, Simply Too Positive, but motor oil is motor oil and Monch and Po’s lubri-cadence burned tracks like a redneck trucker. They hadn't yet stepped outside of themselves lyrically ("You can never begin to apprehend a hologram") nor had Monch burst from his padded brain cells by chopping the foot off the beat.
But Paul's C stood for catalyst.
"On 'Funky For You," we were actually rhyming in time to the bassline and (Paul) was just blown away," elaborates Monch, speaking of the bassline from Billy Cobham's "Stratus" that Paul C played himself. ("Paul was an incredible bass player," recalls engineer Moore, formerly of Tommy Boy group Black By Demand). Also on that song, Paul punctuated the mumbling loop with a reverberating hit and roll from Bob Marley. "Nobody was really doing that at the time," Monch continues. "We played the song for Mr. Walt (the Beatminerz) and he was like, 'Oh my god!' Basically, that demo is what made Organized Konfusion."
Using Chuck D's voice as a hook, another demo song, "Mind Over Matter" was the vapor trail leading to OK's "Hypnotical Gases." Monch shakes his head with a grin: "It had an eerie Wes Montgomery loop. It was PE inspired with a Kool G Rap flow. It felt like a typical Organized-spit song at the time – very lyrical, rhythmic and a bit of information in there. I mean, the way (Paul) had the drums programmed was just incredible."
On another untitled song, a couple of horn blowhards bump into Zigaboo Modeliste's drums from “Here Comes The Meter Man." A percussive brawl breaks out: it’s a hi-hat "clash-kssh" on some next ish. Perfect for Organized Konfusion. Paul C went outside the sampled drum kit for other drum hits, sometimes mimicking them with other instruments; these stabs help fill in as rhythms. "That was the first time we were doing breakdowns," says Prince Poetry. "Paul taught us song structure – we even had intros with planes taking off." At mayhem's end, Po rhymes, "I'm outta here like hair on a baby's chest."
Paul worked with the group on song structure, breath control and, when necessary, told them to shut up. "Monch would write his songs in pieces," remembers Prince Po. "He’d write four bars on Thursday, take two bars from Monday, then put it with the seven bars he made Friday. Paul would be like, ‘Man that shit is too much.' We’d be like, No it’s not – that’s what niggas want! He’d be like, 'Y'all got to shut the fuck up somewhere in there because it’s too long.' We’d look at him with this stubborn inexperienced look."
"I was a pretty arrogant MC at the time," admits Pharoahe. "Paul was the first to shut me down. He pretty much humbled me. He gave us insight into being artists, lyrically, not just MCs."
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Monch walks into Studio 1212 one day and sees a bookish, bespectacled guy fiddling with the SP-1200, the LCD readout shining his lenses. "He was just fucking with it and I'm like, 'What are you doing? You're not doing anything. You're just fucking with the machine.' I didn't hear anything for like an hour. I was like, 'Who is this fucking guy, man?' And you know, lo and behold…"
Don’t try to diss the Profess—OR!
Labels like Tommy Boy and Sleeping Bag were approaching the small Jamaica, Queens studio, so 1212 was getting busy. Owner Mick Carrey, engineers CJ Moore, Paul C and his brother Tim McKasty found themselves swamped. So Paul taught Large Professor how to mind his SPs and EQs. Monch must've caught Extra P in the throes of breaking down atom bom-boms in the drum machine.
Figuratively tweaking, loops dopple from the SP nucleus as soundwaves; Large Proton was honing chops that’d later be smackin’ on his classic Main Source debut of 1989. Maybe both Pauls took a mutton-sized sound byte from neighborhood braggart James Todd Smith: "Before I eat up the beat it has to be chopped."
Mention "the chop" to Large Professor and his face lights up like Nas firing up an X-mas tree when he heard Extra P's jingle bells on "It Ain't Hard To Tell." Large Pro puts the wood to it: "Like MC Shan said, 'We're livin' in a world of hip-hop. That's what Paul C brought to hip-hop: the chop. Back then, we felt free to throw this in and that in. Now people are like, 'You can't even use that one second.' The chop is the chop. You gotta make it do what you want it to do. Pete Rock mastered the chop; he'll make a record go crazy. I love the stabs and programming those little sharp pieces. People are not doing what Paul C was doing because the boundaries of music are different now."
True DAT. Now, 2-inch reels are bound and gagged in 'persnippity' sampling laws. Also, studio advancements like ProTools provide shortcuts. There's less manual toil involved in production, save for digging (now made easier with reissues, online bins and bounty hunters) or diddling a string-cheese keyboard. "These guys would slave hours over a loop," explains 1212 owner Carrey. "It was hard to sample on the damned things (SP-12). You could only take snippets…you had to have your record set up just right. CJ and Paul were working instruments."
"It was a step above a pause mix," CJ concurs. "You couldn’t get it into the recording medium unless you chopped it up and put it back together, one bit at a time. For example, you’ve got a kick from Ohio Players , a snare from James Brown, another snare from Herbie Hancock, a hi-hat from MFSB – you've got different (drum) kits recorded in different rooms at different times on different boards. The challenge was to tie that in together to make it sound like one kit. Make it sound better than it did when it came off the record, which was usually trashed.â€
Hip-hop producers have always pirated technology for their own discourse. Paul C, CJ Moore and Large Professor were translating the inventive spirit of hip-hop's old school by making their own studio fidgetry, just as Marley Marl was, whether it was looping, chopping, or adlibbing sound effects. There were no templates of beat production, so Studio 1212 extrapolated from owner Carrey's rock acumen.
"Critical Beatdown was mixed like a rock record," explains Ultra's TR Love. The producers at 1212 loved the music so it seemed natural to log bloodshot hours inside the notes, never napping between the boom and the bap. Like Large Professor, there are those who still labor over the minutia, the specks within hip-hop's specs, but the slapdash shine of major productions lack the lust for the dusty and so they are few.
Large Professor offers an example: "Paul C got the drums out of 'I Know You Got Soul' by Bobby (Byrd). That's incredible to me. I still can't do it. Biz would be amazed at something like that. But (most) people don't care about that these days.
"That's why 'Just Hangin' Out' is how it is. Paul C did it," he adds, giving credit to Paul out of tribute.
Main Source’s "Just Hangin’ Out" samples Gwen McCrae’s "90% Of Me," which shows how much one Paul gleaned from the other (the "funky extension" Kool Keith referenced on "Give The Drummer Some"). The song also uses Sister Nancy’s "Bam Bam" riff, a blend so seamless that Nancy’s voice becomes the other 10%. Thelonius Monk called it “Two is one†when musicians (in Paul's case, samples and producers) are in tune (the song itself) with each other.
"Large Professor was stacking loops,†says Cut Chemist. “Paul C taught him the good combination – like this loop goes with that beat. The drum programming on 'Snake Eyes,' that's 'Synthetic Substitution' chopped up really nice. That’s an example of what I think good production is and how I’m influenced – chopped to the point where it doesn’t sound chopped. It’s totally natural sounding." It’s as natural a blend as Paul C putting the hip in "chip" and the hop in "chop."
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OK. Let’s get organized. Pause and take a breath. Damn, take an L, an LP and a PC to the head. Where were we?
Back at the Studio 1212 console, things were getting busy around '88. Mick had some of Arron Fuchs’ original reels of The Meters and ancillary James Brown projects. Paul C and CJ Moore mixed many of Fuchs' Tuff City acts, including Mighty Mic Masters. A human sketch of Industry Rule #4080, Fuchs bought the licensing to "Impeach the President."
"Sometimes, Paul C was just sampling directly off the tracks," Carrey reveals. "With the master tapes, he had a separate control for each instrument and could basically build his tracks from scratch. With looping directly off the record, everything’s there. It’s a lot harder to get rid of things."
With the masters, they could isolate different bits. But when mixing from Rud’s maimed copy of “Impeach The President,†Paul and CJ had to euphemize the sound quality from the entire track. They also minced and assembled a vast in-house sound library, and other studios would call up for samples or kicks. "It became a standard, which was bad and good," evinces CJ. "We had the popularity but we were really being used. We lived in 1212. We just go home, shower come back and get back to it."
Sometimes they’d wake up in the studio to the sound of a song they’d just produced, detonating from a passing jeep or a JVC-forced radio being lugged nearby. "That was the coolest thing," says Carrey. "I heard ‘Do The James’ right outside and I’d just heard the record in the studio, sounding like shit just like a week ago. It was such a big New York record.â€
"You go in the bins at the local record store, look at the credits and find out that people that did things were right in your backyard," says Prince Po.
Studio 1212 was also home to MCs whose reps didn't transcend their zip code – but that's all that mattered. These were the small, scarce pressings wax collectors now froth over: Phase & Rhythm's "Hyperactive" (one of Paul C's best productions), Lotto, Mighty Mic Masters, Percee P and soon-to-be-better-known acts like CJ's Black By Demand, Son of Bazerk, Super Lover Cee and Casanova Rud, Stezo, Queen Latifah and finally with legends like Rakim and Biz.
"When these guys would put records out we’d get calls to the studio – because it was listed on the label. I’d have little kids calling up from across the country: ‘Is Paul C there? I really like his record," recalls Carrey. Biz Markie sought 1212 when he heard about Paul C’s legendary EQs. CJ emphasizes, "We were reachable and affordable so we got the core of artists in Queens. People would come in on the strength of 'This is a studio where that happened and I want to be a part of that."
Large Professor tips his thinking cap, "1212 was right there in Jamaica so you could stay in the hood and get busy. Wow, word."
We are left winded.
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Need a haircut?
Up in West Haven, Connecticut, on a day like any other, you can glissade into S&S Hair Cuts and get an aerodynamic fade, a Gumby or a Ronald Reagan. Just like it was ‘89. Despite the crazy noise, you interject, "It’s my turn." Despite your hydrochloric pleataloons, the Barber waves you to an empty chair. Your Balleys slip on an activator slick and you skid across the floor like an EPMD dancer, weaving a S-Curl formation in and out of the queue of chairs. You land in the last seat.
Barber asks, “To the max?†You reply, “Just rip the cut.â€
Barber gets into his move, spinning you around at 33 rpms as you note the album covers carouseling by on the wall. The box-cuts rocked on these covers look tighter than the UPS box-butt on top of your head. The chair stops, your skull snaps and the clippers begin their slurred buzz. As tiny polka dots of fuzz float past your eyes, you realize the guy on these album covers looks suspiciously like the guy cutting your hair – and they both look like Stezo, the rapper with the Reagan you once saw doing the "Steve Martin" in EPMD’s "You Gots To Chill" video. As your ears lower, your brows raise. You jerk up, causing the clippers to zig a drunken zag across your head. You wrench a 12-inch single off the wall, causing the barber to freak the funk out. In fact, the record you pull is "Freak The Funk," and your barber is indeed the rapper Stezo.
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The back of Stezo's "Freak The Funk" single features a small snapshot of a white guy with record bags under his eyes and the panegyrics "Dedicated to the memory of Paul C (McKasty) who's work and love for music inspired many." Paul C inspired many because many a producer sampled a sample he mixed rather than the source itself. Paul C mixed Stezo’s ’89 LP Crazy Noise and his opening break on "It’s My Turn" gets sampled more than its original source, Skullsnaps’ "It’s A New Day." A scarce English funk recording from 1973, the Skullsnaps LP was harder to find than your mind upon first hearing it – so producers used Paul C’s mix for a louder more accessible version.
"Most everyone who samples Skullsnaps gets it off my album," vaunts Steve "Stezo" Williams, happy to have spread the lovely beat. "One day Erick Sermon pulled up in his Benz and said, ‘Get in the car, Steve.'" The E Double had a tape of Crazy Noise and kept playing that beginning of "It’s My Turn" over and over again, as if looping a pause-tape live. Stezo chuckles, "He kept saying, ‘Let us have that beat, Steve. Let us have that beat.'†Chill. E already had the beat, unbeknownst to him, which he eventually used for Sermon's "Hittin' Switches" and a pair of Das EFX songs.
On Stezo's "To The Max," a piano struts toward two hopeful guitar chirps and walks on by to meet a single, gleaming horn which toots the arrangement. While produced by Stezo and his partner DJ Chris “Cosby†Lowe, the tambourine wiggle and extra kick and consequent extra foot-in-that-ass is Paul C. "When we were recording," laughs Stezo, "Paul wasn't shy to tell us, 'Yo that shit is wack. Do it over." Paul C made Stezo rewrite "Talking Sense" three times, evidence of his love for the music he engineered. Rocking a frayed Zeppelin T-shirt and a Stetsa hat, Paul would be at 1212 adding "bump" insurance" on his DAT levels before sending them to get mastered. "At the time, people who mastered rap albums would try to take the levels down," explains Stezven. "Paul would put extra boost in it so it wouldn't take from the music."
Paul C collaborated with partner CJ Moore on Black By Demand’s "Can’t Get Enough," its horns blat like a remastered funk 45; and produced Phase and Rhythm for Funky Tune Records (Both groups would later sign to Tommy Boy). On Phase and Rhythm’s "Brainfood" single, Paul C pulls a Steinski and drops in a dialog bite, "This record will not be heard so we can bring you the following special report," and what follows is a vocal bit from an instructional guitar 45. On the "Hyperactive" b-side, Rhythm rhymes: "When I first heard this beat, it had to hype me." No wonder. Paul killed it with the drums from Tommy Roe’s "Sweet Pea," hitting so hard that the peas passed on – from School of Hard Knocks to MC Lyte to Attica Blues and others who’ve reverberated the same.
Take a look around. Paul C was getting ready to blow up like clippers hitting Jeru’s dreds. He was grooming Organized Konfusion and played a crucial role in making one of New York’s biggest records, Superlover Cee and Cassanova Rud's "Do The James." His young career even survived the bad idea of hip-house with his version of Ultra’s "Traveling At The Speed Of Thought." And, according to Mick Carrey and CJ Moore, Devo and the Rolling Stones were approaching Paul C for beats.
Fortunately for us, the phone trilled. It’s Rakim, aka "Mr. Sexy."
Before your head starts ringing, jump forward 12 years, say, about the time you found out Dr. Dre was to produce Rakim’s next album. Imagine the backstage scene at the "Up In Smoke Tour," looking like a booty casting call for Eric B & Rakim’s “Don’t Sweat The Technique†video. Dre's sitting there, headphones snug, drowning out Eminem’s whine, listening to “Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em†and panting like the Commodores’ “Assembly Line."
Now back that clock up. Paul C was studying N.W.A.'s Straight Outta Compton when he was getting ready to work with Rakim. One day Stezo partner Chris Lowe was over at Paul C’s house checking out records. “I looked out the window and Rakim pulled up in a white Mercedes with a Louis Vuitton top. I was like, Oh shit, it’s about to be on!"
"Just before he passed, I know Paul and Rakim were getting close," remembers Large Professor. "I would be over at Paul’s house and hear the messages from Ra. I was like wow, he’s getting ready to get busy with Eric B & Rakim."
Paul would call CJ Moore and audition beats he wanted to use. "I wanted to get on that project," smiles CJ. "I think Paul’s wife was friends with Rakim’s girl and they were introduced that way. I gave Paul a Steely Dan record we were going to use with Rakim. I was like, 'You can just play that shit over.' So (Paul) played the bass over the phone – that's when I noticed just how gifted he was. It was the way he played. A lot of records we sampled aren’t jamming records. There were simple lines. But it was about how long you held the note, how you plucked it, how you approached it with velocity. Paul C understood how what we sampled was played."
Everybody he worked with, from Mikey D to Rahzel to Monch, remembers Paul C chomping at the chance to match his beats with the appropriate lyrical arsenal. The R stood between the cue of the record and the "S" on any MC's soon-to-be-deflated chessst. For production ideas, Paul C makes tapes for Rakim and they build over then-unknown funk gems like Funk Inc., 24 Carat Black and Tony Avlon. [CHECK]
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On the night of July 16th 1989, Paul C engineered his last session. It was with a new Boston group called the Almighty RSO, managed then, as they are now, by David Mayes, a Harvard student who was put out a small hip-hop newsletter called The Source. As usual, Paul would get home late and exhausted.
The next morning, Tim McKasty found his younger brother dead, murdered in his sleep from three gunshot wounds to the head and neck. He was only 24. To this day, this case remains unsolved. "We were all stunned," remembers 1212 owner Mick Carrey. "I was upset for years; there’s no healing when you get to know somebody like him. It was such a shock. He would never touch or hurt a person."
"Paul was a kind-hearted, nice guy. He was almost like an angel, really," says Large Professor. "I was at the New Music Seminar and Joe Fatal told me Paul C was dead because he heard it from Rakim. I didn’t think it was real. I tried to call him and call him and then I called 1212. I spoke to Paul every day back then, every day." Rahzel, Pharoah Monch, Prince Po—nobody believed it. “Him? Naah,†adds Stezo. “I wasn’t worried about him dyin’. Not Paul."
“We were young," recalls Monch. "No one I knew had been murdered. I had never experienced that. I had only seen it on TV. So when you hear that kind of news, you don’t believe it. We went home to call Paul and see what the fuck is going on.â€
Prince Po went over to Paul’s house a couple of hours after his brother found him and was greeted at the door by grim detectives in sports jackets. "My vibe was like, 'Damn I ain't heard from Paul in a minute.' Usually he’ll call and kick it real quick even if he was really busy. I was just going over to check him out. I didn’t know he was dead. I lost it. They took me in and questioned me. I was distraught because I just couldn’t believe what they was tellin' me."
A bewildering contagion of rumors surrounded the brutal crime because Paul C had no enemies. "The first thing that came to my mind," says CJ, "was Superlover Cee. I'm like, my partner's fucking dead because of these dudes. That was everybody's perception at the time but that was just on the surface."
Cee and Rud's reputation for hustling spawned the theory they had gotten into some trouble and the killer who came looking for them found Paul instead. "They was trying to get their dollar until they came up with the record deal," recalls Ultramagnetic MC's TR Love. "But you can’t bring that street shit into the records. They tried both in the same realm and it wasn’t working."
"At the funeral, STP (Organized Konfusion) were right there with me," reflects Large Professor. "For me, it was hard. He got shot up and that’s all I knew. It was hard for me to understand. There were speculations about why he got shot. The people it might’ve been were actually sitting there at the funeral. It was confusing. I don’t like to speak on that end of it because that’s the part that God knows and in some way will reveal to us one day."
Initially, everybody was a suspect and all the artists who worked with Paul C were interrogated. Rud and Cee were cleared of any involvement but only after their reputation had been blotted. While accusations spread quickly, the news of their innocence only trickled because nobody knew what to believe. The retraction was too late and the damage was done. Rud and Cee’s career as one Queens’ most talented groups was frozen in the moment of "Do The James," their classic debut Girls I Got ‘Em Locked and their bond with Paul C. In ’93, the duo attempted an EP on Wild Pitch called Blow Up The Spot, but the music was a foible and lacked the acuity of their debut.
"After that I kept my distance from whomever we associated with at that time," says TR Love. "I didn’t know the real story. I didn’t know who was who. I didn’t want to judge no one and get my feelings worked up. We (Ultramagnetic) were getting ready to go overseas. Sitting around New York wouldn’t have done us any good."
Tim McKasty promised to give TR Love Paul’s discs with the samples and drum programming but then decided to keep them. "I don’t blame him," TR says. "They had to have something to remember him by. For a while things were uncontrollably bitter between the family and the artists. We’d check on them. Then his wife disappeared and Tim went into seclusion."
Prince Po and Monch were hanging out a lot with Paul around the time of his death. "His wife was black and that made (the murder fall-out) controversial," says Po. "After it happened his family wasn’t really trying to associate with black people no more. I kind of understood; he was their son. They moved. I saw Tim afterwards. It (the murder) nerved him out. He had a jumpy way about him and it was sad because you know where it’s from. I felt real bad for him."
The theories surrounding the death get even wilder. Paul C's last recording session the night of July 16th was with Almighty RSO, a group whose reputation isn't exactly Doug E. Fresh clean, and that conjures its own speculation. More disheartening are suggestions Paul's wife was somehow involved. "(Paul's death) taught me a valuable lesson about paying attention to what goes on around you," Prince Po says cryptically. "The few times when she was around and we was around she was very distant. They seemed more like friends than being married. He hung out a lot with us. Paul would complain to me about when he gives his wife something, instead of her building their shit up she’d run and give it to her sister. It was stressful times because Paul worked really hard."
Lucrative contracts for producers are the norm today – when making beats for money, the cheesier the better and the mo' cheddar – but back then, producers worked hard for money. Just like Paul – except Paul didn't like dealing with contracts. "I saw where a lot of his stress was coming from," Po continues. "“He said ‘I don’t have to do contracts. I can survive off the ones I trust if my wife do right by the money. Eric B & Rakim, Latifah, Biz Mark was coming into play and he had gotten so much recognition off the Ultra. I guess a greedy bug bit his wife in the ass. She was after money that wasn’t received yet. She was getting the perception that money was there that wasn’t there."
At the time, hip-hop murders weren't profitable and there was no real hip-hop media to speak of, so the press wasn't interested. The unsolved mystery of Paul's death ran on an episode of America’s Most Wanted, leading to the arrest of a suspect in the small military town of Fayetteville, North Carolina. He was soon released for lack of evidence.
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Paul’s death left his friends in the lurch. Phase and Rhythm vanished after CJ Moore mixed their lone Tommy Boy single, “Swollen Pockets.†Sleeping Bag went under, EPMD was picked up by Def Jam and, without Paul C’s guidance, Stezo and his dance moves were in limbo. “It was fucked up, because I felt selfish,†says Monch. “I was like, ‘What do we do now?’†Organized Konfusion was even approached by A&R at Paul C’s wake, eager to sign the group and assume beat duties suddenly left vacant. “It was kind of weird at the time, but I also felt selfish—thinking about the future of Organized Konfusion.â€
TR Love and CJ Moore couldn’t even look at an SP or drum machine for a while. "The closest thing to Paul was me," explains CJ Moore. "But I didn’t want nothing to do with nothing. I was so tired (already) even though I was young.†This comes from an innovator in his own right who, at age 13, would show up at 1212’s door at 3 in the morning, asking Mick if he had any studio time, always feverish to make beats. "A part of me was taken," continues CJ. "People never saw Paul or my face. Sometimes you’re not appreciated until your death."
CJ turned down the opportunity to work on the Eric B & Rakim album, so Large Professor assumed production duties. "I felt like I had to keep it real," recalls Large Professor, looking down, hands wrought together. "I just wanted to show love how Paul showed love. It was like a dream. Paul showed me the fundamentals and as soon I’m getting into it, I’m working with Eric B & Rakim."
Paul C hooked up the Commodores loop for "Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em" while Rakim added the strobing keyboards from Bob James’ "Night On Bald Mountain." Paul C produced all of "Run For Cover" as the drums from Tony Avlon’s “Sexy Coffee Pot†kept frantic pace. "In The Ghetto" was yet another seamless blend of the Pauls' productionalities. The former brought the 24 Carat Black piano and strings while the latter dropped in the Bill Withers’ drums – and the eighteenth letter flows over sixteenth notes. Yet the credits for the Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em LP acknowledge neither Paul C nor Large Professor’s contributions, which is nothing new. Mark the 45 King ghost-produced much of Eric B & Rakim’s second LP, Follow The Leader.
Stezo and Rakim met while both sat on each other's 1212 sessions, just to vibe with Paul C. Like Stezo, Rakim put a photo of Paul C on the back of Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em, right next to the picture commemorating his father, William Griffin. "I had to put his picture on there,†affirms Stezo about the "Freak The Funk" single. "His sister and mother came down to the Studio and said ‘Thank you.’ A lot of people didn’t bring his records back to him but we made it our business to make it up to his family. That was the main thing I think Rakim remembered me for. One day he saw me on 125th St. and we talked about Paul C. He said he missed him."
Studio 1212 trudged on, and CJ continued working with Paul C’s ingenuity in mind. While producing Tommy Boy act Live Squad, CJ dangled mics out the window to record skits of staged car jackings in the 1212 parking lot. Mick Carrey awoke to gun shots and called the cops, unintentionally adding to the scene’s authenticity. The Live Squad was too live for Tommy Boy and the only thing that got out was a bootleg video whose highlights included a baby being tossed out a car window and a cop being shot. In ’95, Studio 1212 burned to the ground.
CJ Moore called Paul C a "word processor," for good reason. Pharoahe Monch, Kool Keith and Rahzel continue to spit in the face of technology while applying Paul C studio innovations, making words really stretch their role. Casanova Rud has been submitting tracks for various Queensbridge artists, while Paul’s brother went from being AWOL to resurfacing on sundry Bad Boy projects – playing keyboards for Carl Thomas and Puff Daddy. Mick Carrey runs Soho Music and is partners with Stretch Armstrong, who originally brought Percee P to 1212.
On the outgoing message at S&S Haircuts, you’ll hear that Stezo is still recording.
"I’ll always remember what he instilled in me,†says Large “Buy-the-album-when-I-drop-it†Professor who’d go on to make a pantheon of classics with Paul C reflected his beat specs: Main Source's Breaking Atoms, Kool G Rap, Nasty Nas and some of hip hop’s most coveted remixes in Gang Starr (“Gotta Get Overâ€), Slick Rick (“It’s A Boyâ€) and Common Sense (“Resurrectionâ€). "I know he felt that Main Source record,†emphasizes Large Professor, choked up with excitement because he knew that the project was overseen and overstood, a la Scott La Rock. “I know it would’ve done him proud. A lot of stuff I was doing was just for…†Large Professor trails off into his thoughts and looks down at his hands.
The Paul C catalog finishes Large Professor’s thought, a thought that can be traced back to the ghost notes and what you heard and what you think you heard. Whether it’s the faint eerie “ha!†of the Commodores in “Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em" or "The Producer Speaks,†a bonus beat mixed and arranged by Paul C for a group called 360.
Read between the drums and you’ll find the engineer.
Prince Poetry is still working on tracks as well, trying to maintain someway, somehow. "If I was to head to Monch's house now and take the local streets, I would pass by Paul’s house, at the beginning of Rosedale. I pass by the funeral home where they had the service. Three days before (today), I told the cab to let me off early because I wanted to just walk past (Paul C’s) crib – and now you asked me to do an interview about him. The weight of the whole thing was enough for me to keep it as a strong memory but put it to the side because it’s too much to think about."
“Paul C to the organisms…Let the beat ride…Let the beat ride…â€
--Organized Konfusion
Some of the albums and works he was involved in...
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: Paul C...2 Incredible articles...
This was first published in Big Daddy Magazine...an incredible read about the late great influential producer.
Traveling at the Speed of Thought
There's been some thought 'round these parts about some of the great stories in hip-hop that rarely find their way to the surface. Then some cats on the Okayplayer boards were asking about Paul C- who he was, his legacy, his death. Thought it'd be good to dig in the archives and pull this story out, by Dave Tompkins, the most comprehensive piece on Paul C ever written.
This story's origins began somewhere in the office of 360hiphop around 2001, those halcyon days of internet-media revolution. The story was published after about three months of work, but the hubris of the site's upper-management had created a space that few people could actually access, tricked-out computers or not. Luckily DT found a print home for it eventually, with Big Daddy. Still, just wanted to put out the word of where it came from first.
That 360 crew we had was no joke: jeff chang, caramanica, dave tompkins, kris ex, hua hsu, sly stallone (where is you man?), egon, etc. Maybe some more from those archives should go up in the next few weeks.
Anyway, here's the piece for folks to read. It was absolutely unbelievable to edit; Tompkins was just on some other shit. Enjoy.
He produced the Ultramagnetic MCs and Eric B & Rakim. He perfected techniques like the "chop" and "pan." He taught Large Professor everything he knows. And he died in 1989 at the age of 24. Paul C is the most influential producer you've never read about – until now. This is a 360 report on a man and his music.
RETURN TO THE WORLD AS A THOUGHT
by Dave Tompkins
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Spring, 1969. Someone’s digits were stubbed to the nub, hitting the piano so hard that it bounced across the planks, out the door and into a sun that beat hotter than Georgia asphalt. It left vapor trails of hot pants and everybody was after it. The song? "There Was A Time" by the Dee Felice Trio, an early James Brown production on his People imprint. Besides the piano that knocked cuticles into knuckles, the trio were nice enough to mix their gamboling upright bass in the left channel of the speaker. And in the right channel, the drums – the drums that changed hip-hop.
Drums that changed hip hop?
Right.
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"Play MC Ultra as a warning sign of my skill."
--Kool Keith, "Give The Drummer Some"
Pan across the decades to 1987. Jamaica, Queens, New York. At 1212 Union Hall Street, you’ll find a booming cranny called Studio 1212. It shares rent with a Muslim community center and a rehearsal space where Metallica once dwelled, blocks from LL Cool J's "Bristol Hotel." Deep within, somewhere between a SP-12 drum machine and a 1200 turntable, sits studio engineer Paul McKasty, or as hip-hop would have it, Paul C. Across from him are the Ultramagnetic MCs who, as skill would have it, are working on an album that would change hip-hop. Marley Marl had already done his part by introducing sampling in ‘86. By adopting this five-finger discount marvel of technology, Ultramagnetic would introduce hip-hop to Dee Felice. Satellites are getting dim and Kool Keith’s twinkling, ready to grill some brains. At this point in the recording, Ultra’s already done “Feelin It,†and they made a friend for life by using two seconds of unturned drum from James Brown’s “Get Up Get Into It Get Involved,†something Marley would set off every which way.
So things are going swimmingly.
Paul C’s been chasing drums in the right channel all night and wants to run a new beat he's concocted by the group. He pushes play and Dee Felice’s drums bust out of the (right) speaker, beating their snarey chest with more snap in their bap, more mug-wumph to their bump. Horns exchange blasts with guitar riffs, and a sax burns rubber across the track, leaving your face with a skid-mark handlebar moustache. This would become the masterpiece "Give The Drummer Some." Here, Keith rhymes about "funky extensions," and faster than a switch-up, the track sprouts one: a roll from "Funky Drummer" fills in for two seconds and then it's back to Dee's "Time" being pounded senseless. "Give The Drummer Some†is Paul C's single production credit on Ultra's debut. The original "funky drummer," Clyde Stubblefield, got a lot. Paul treated him right by isolating his stickin’ moves as if Clyde was the soloist. Felice yourself!
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"There Was a Time" and Paul C was ahead of his. It was as if Ced Gee called it when, in ’86, he rhymed over the Dynamic Corvette cowbell stabs of Ultra’s “Funky Potion†and said, "Anticipating laws concerning realized composition." When Paul C crashed "Funky Drummer" into Dee's "Time," isolating the drums in the meantime, it was a profound moment in hip-hop history: the introduction, essentially, of the "chop" and the "pan," techniques forever repeated that would change the music at the rate Kool Keith turns his Budweiser painter-cap sideways.
Paul C was a master at innovating such production techniques with confining technology, trumping the sound of even today's advancements. Paul C's ideas were not in the lab's job description. His story is a mutation of a theme essential to hip-hop: making the most of limited means. It's the plug in the park lamppost or taking the two copies of a break and turning five seconds into five minutes of funk.
Ask Ultra's TR Love when "Give The Drummer's" rhymes were written and he laughs, "Shit…(we'd) just lay it down and let it go. Paul didn't let us know he was doing the track. He just dropped it on us." Until then, Paul C was on Ultra's groove support, adding a roll here or putting some extra ass on the bass there. "The fun thing was making records with him," remembers Keith. "He really cared about our music. He gave it ("Drummer") that sharp snare. He traded drum kicks with (TR Love). There in the late-night ghost sessions, he giggled at my lyrics looking through the window."
Ask Large Professor, erstwhile Main Source frontman who "drops skills over drum fills,†about Paul’s Ultra beat and he says: "Paul C panned the record, then he just flipped out on the programming. It was crazy.†Extra P says, “It was crazy†three more times and grimaces like it’s so good, it’s McNasty. Large Professor knows because Paul C was his mentor, teaching him the SP-12 sampler and other prestidigitations that allowed the Extra P to "get busy over unknown tracks." On the back of Main Source's Breaking Atoms, the credits read, "Paul C Lives." And he did in a way, through the Extra P. So indebted was he to the knowledge and skill he gleaned from Paul C, Large Pro named his publishing after him, Paul Sea Music.
“Ultramagnetic was schooling a lot of cats with their music," says Pete Rock, a chop off the Marley Marl block. "I always listened to 'Give The Drummer Some,' trying to figure it out. I thought maybe (Paul C) knew someone at Polygram that had James Brown’s reels. There’s no way in the world he could sample (Dee Felice) and take the sounds out. Those are the illest drums I ever heard.â€
"That was sick, waaayyy ahead of its time,†agrees Rahzel, the inhuman beatbox who worked with Paul C in ’85. “He could take a tin can and make it sound like elephants running through a jungle. Listen to a lot of Ultra’s stuff and you can see where sound changed. The only person that came close to his engineering abilities was Bob Power."
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On the back of Stezo's "Freak The Funk" single and Eric B. & Rakim’s Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em LP, you’ll find snapshots of a white guy and the inscriptions "In Memory Of Paul C." At the fade of Organized Konfusion’s "Fudge Pudge," Monch, Prince Poetry and OC are chanting, “To the organisms! Paul C! To the organisms! Let the beat ride…"
That’s about all that is known about Paul C – his name and his musical fingerprint. He was white, Irish and, at times, called Barney Rubble. Most knew him as the nice guy with the ridiculous record collection. On July 17th, 1989, the 24 year-old producer was found murdered in his Rosedale, Queens home, shot three times in his head and neck. To this day, nobody knows who killed him or, more importantly, why. That night, Biz Markie was on his way to Studio 1212 to work with Paul on his Diabolical LP. Paul C had just produced a demo for Organized Konfusion and mixed Stezo's classic Crazy Noise LP. The last thing he produced was Eric B. & Rakim’s Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em (though the credits indicate otherwise). Latifah was supposed to be next.
Things were good for hip-hop in and around the turn of the decade. Master Ace rhymed with himself-as-Biz-Markie, over the journeyman's bassline from Cymande's "Message." KMD was mixing Sesame Street puppets with The Isley Brothers. There were the stratified derangements of the Bomb Squad (Ice Cube, Public Enemy), and, yo and behold, what's that in the left channel? Hitman Howie Tee had plucked the Dee Felice bassline for Chubb Rock’s "Treat ‘Em Right." Sound is a spiritual medium and it sounded like Paul C was also lab-slabbin' on Eric B. & Rakim's "The Ghetto," and on Large Professor's beats on Main Source's "Looking at the Front Door" and Kool G Rap's "Streets of New York."
But Paul C’s death came just after NWA’s Straight Outta Compton and two years before The Chronic. There were going to be more Gs, decimal points and opportunity in hip-hop, and though Paul C loathed contracts, they became a necessity. (Large Professor says Paul C was listening to a lot of NWA so imagine what Kool G. Rap would’ve done over those drums of death?) At the time he passed, producers like DJ Premier, Pete Rock and Large Professor were just getting their chops and pans together – techniques they directly or indirectly learned from Paul C.
Like an engineer’s subtle tweaks, Paul's presence is felt in hip-hop music but few are aware they're hearing him. As long as the sound's bangin', who cares? Paul C's found in the ghost notes, the incidental sounds created when samples react to each other in the same space. "A lot of producers won’t admit to it but they changed their sound after hearing Paul C,†says Rahzel. "They were like, 'Oh, I gotta sound like this shit.'"
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Paul C’s undefined role as mixer, engineer and producer makes you wonder just how many beats he actually did create. His paws are all over Superlover Cee & Casanova Rud’s classic "Do The James," (credited to Calliente aka Superlover Cee). The producer’s role in hip-hop today is as songwriter, music maker. Back then, "mixing, arranging and engineering" could've very well meant finding the loop and hooking it up. And "producer" was the guy who ganked the guy who found the loop and hooked it up. Today, the credited "producer" sometimes ganks the guy who actually produced it because he banked the guy who found the loop and hooked it up. Now that that’s clear…
"He was on some unmade up shit, you can't even describe it," says Organized's Prince Poetry. The Queens duo were signed on the strength of their Paul C-produced demo, eerily being approached by labels at the producer's funeral. Then there’s people who say Paul C didn’t exist, rather he was a Jamie Starr alter-ego of Large Professor, also named Paul. The mythology surrounding Paul C stems from how he wasn’t mysterious, at least to the people who knew him. The consensus is “He’s was a cool white guy who knew records and made dope beats.â€
Remembers TR Love: "Ced Gee told me that nigga Paul C is nice and then I meet him and I was like ‘Who the fuck is this?’ When you call a white boy a nigga, he has some type of skill, he’s down."
“The way he spoke, if you weren’t looking at him you wouldn’t know (he was white),†recalls Large Professor. “I was still in my teens then. It let me know people are people. It did a lot for me."
Adds Rahzel, "There was nothing crazy about him, just cool."
"You look at him and he got on faded jeans, a fat pair of sneakers and an old Gang Starr t-shirt or a sweatshirt with a hole in it," remembers Prince Poetry. Paul C not only helped Monch and Poetry transform from Simply Too Positive into Organized Konfusion but he was a close friend. “He was hip-hop but wasn’t phoney about it. He was more into throwing on that James Brown cut that niggas couldn’t find.â€
"When you’re taught the bare essence of music and how to love it and define what’s funk to you. Paul C spent so much with it. He got so good I don’t think he knew how good he was. He always worked off friendship; he didn’t like doing contractual work. Very open hearted person. He just loved the music so much he didn’t want to mess with nothin' that was wack. Everything he touched he wanted to be funky."
Before Ultramagnetic, Paul C produced early Queens groups Mikey D & L.A. Posse and Marauder & The Fury (“Get Loose Mother Gooseâ€) on Public Records. A green-eyed pioneer, Mikey once gave a young Cool J his Ls and, in ‘93, returned from obscurity to become Main Source’s headmaster after Large Professor bolted out the front door. Irony abounds. With Paul C on the "Brick House" beat, Mikey D’s "I Get Rough" sounds like LL backed by Fresh Gordon’s crushing drums. “I liked that stuff because it reminded me of Mantronix, except the drums were heavier and louder," says Cut Chemist, who cites Paul C as a big influence.
"I Get Rough" also debuted Rahzel as a cazal-fogging “huh!†as Paul C had chopped up Rahzel’s beatbox for the song. Paul C told Rahzel that the drums are his voice and assigned him tapes of Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath and James Brown to memorize. Like a hog burping through a distortion pedal, Rahzel’s patented “brwoinrrrnnw!†was the result of Paul C teaching him guitar stabs. Like Rick Rubin, Paul C heard hip-hop in rock. "He’d tell me to break down each instrument and then put it all together whole," Rahzel says. "He said, ‘The way you should sound over a microphone, no one should be able to tell that it’s a human.' He was one of the first to put together a song that was all vocals. The only person who came close to what Paul was doing was Bobby McFerrin. And this is ‘85. He used a tape of my vocals to put together a song that was all vocals."
Rahzel then recites Paul C’s remix of himself and it’s akin to the melody Alchemist used for Dilated Peoples’ "Annihilation." Six degrees of chopping never ends: Pete Rock has said Alchemist’s production reminds him of Paul C and Rahzel recently worked with Pete Rock. On Main Source’s "Just Hangin Out,†Large Professor is “with Pete Rock making beats sharper than cleats.†All of this, of course, pieced together by Paul C’s influence.
Rahzel also beatboxes James Brown’s "Stoned To The Bone." No wait, he’s beatboxing "I Got A Good Thing (remix)" by Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud, produced by Paul C in 1988. Rahzel emulates the track, from its guitar stabs to The JB’s "ooh!" shrieks. Rud and Cee added layers of syncopated rhymes (“My beat is your choreographerâ€) over Paul’s C’s high end tambourine jangles, a production trait that could be likened to Large Professor’s later obsession with the sleigh bells.
On “Do The James,†Paul blended “Impeach The President†(the first thing Marley stabbed with his SP-12) with the descending guitar frolics of James Brown’s “Blues And Pants,†the uptown riff that had every R&B diva writhing to Big’s “Dreams…"
"It’s still the biggest I’ve ever heard ‘Impeach the President,'†says Large Professor. "That’s how good of engineer he was."
"'Do The James' was the blend of the century,†adds Cut Chemist. In the words of Positive K and LG: “It’s a good combination."
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There was a time. It goes back to the speakers. This time Paul’s in the left channel, alone again with the same song by Dee Felice Trio. This time, the swinging bassline gets the starting nod and, before Hitman Howie Tee jacked it for "Treat ‘Em Right," "There Was A Time" becomes Superlover Cee and Casanova Rud’s “It Gets No Deeper.†Oh, but it does.
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Wheeze back and return to a world out of breath. We’re trying to catch one in particular, a respiration before Kraftwerk swerved its automotives to electro and hopped on a Huffy for "Tour De France." Pedal out of those bicycle pants, whiz along the funky back porch routes of Georgia, 1969, pass through James Brown’s "Pants and Blues," Dee Felice Trio’s "There Was A Time" and cut across to the Motor City, 1974.
Here, the factories hack, the hoary sky stoops down to inhale and "The Assembly Line," a song by the Commodores, says: don’t be a human piston. Its beat would become a catchphrase in hip-hop production by artists like Kool G Rap and Third Bass. Four minutes after the solemn guitar part plucked by the Jungle Brothers (for "Black Woman"), drummer Walter Orange beats the breath out of his kit and the Commodores harmonize a "huh." Their one-note blow announces a cymballistic break that would propel Eric B & Rakim's "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em," produced by this story's hero, Paul C. Paul's sampled "huh" is barely recognizable from the Lionel Ritchie original; he must've starved it through the mixing console 'cause it's thinned out and ghostly, as if on life support.
On the song, Rakim rhymes, "At least when he left he'll know what hit 'im / The last breath of the words of death was the rhythm." "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em" is Paul C's last production breath on record before he was murdered in the summer of 1989.
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"If I’ve got one breath left / I’ll suck wind from the Valley of Death"
--Pharoahe Monch "Releasing Hypnotical Gases"
"Huh?" was Pharoahe Monch’s response when, one day in 1988, Paul C rang him up to say he wanted to work with his and Prince Poetry's group, Simply Too Positive. Let’s call it a heave-“huhhhhhh?†because Paul C gave Pharoahe Monch an asthma attack. "That was the first time I really had an attack from hearing some exciting news," remembers Monch, an MC who hits the inhaler while others fly Cronkites. "I got that phone call and was like [gasping], 'Damn, we're going to work with Paul C!' His record preceded him already – with Ultramagnetic and Casanova Rud."
Paul produced the group's demo, taking interest after hearing only four bars of rhyme. He popped in when Studio 1212 engineer CJ Moore was hooking up Cymande's "Bra" for the first STP session. The STP demo would have any Organized Konfusion fan making fudge pudge in his pants. You may snicker at the name, Simply Too Positive, but motor oil is motor oil and Monch and Po’s lubri-cadence burned tracks like a redneck trucker. They hadn't yet stepped outside of themselves lyrically ("You can never begin to apprehend a hologram") nor had Monch burst from his padded brain cells by chopping the foot off the beat.
But Paul's C stood for catalyst.
"On 'Funky For You," we were actually rhyming in time to the bassline and (Paul) was just blown away," elaborates Monch, speaking of the bassline from Billy Cobham's "Stratus" that Paul C played himself. ("Paul was an incredible bass player," recalls engineer Moore, formerly of Tommy Boy group Black By Demand). Also on that song, Paul punctuated the mumbling loop with a reverberating hit and roll from Bob Marley. "Nobody was really doing that at the time," Monch continues. "We played the song for Mr. Walt (the Beatminerz) and he was like, 'Oh my god!' Basically, that demo is what made Organized Konfusion."
Using Chuck D's voice as a hook, another demo song, "Mind Over Matter" was the vapor trail leading to OK's "Hypnotical Gases." Monch shakes his head with a grin: "It had an eerie Wes Montgomery loop. It was PE inspired with a Kool G Rap flow. It felt like a typical Organized-spit song at the time – very lyrical, rhythmic and a bit of information in there. I mean, the way (Paul) had the drums programmed was just incredible."
On another untitled song, a couple of horn blowhards bump into Zigaboo Modeliste's drums from “Here Comes The Meter Man." A percussive brawl breaks out: it’s a hi-hat "clash-kssh" on some next ish. Perfect for Organized Konfusion. Paul C went outside the sampled drum kit for other drum hits, sometimes mimicking them with other instruments; these stabs help fill in as rhythms. "That was the first time we were doing breakdowns," says Prince Poetry. "Paul taught us song structure – we even had intros with planes taking off." At mayhem's end, Po rhymes, "I'm outta here like hair on a baby's chest."
Paul worked with the group on song structure, breath control and, when necessary, told them to shut up. "Monch would write his songs in pieces," remembers Prince Po. "He’d write four bars on Thursday, take two bars from Monday, then put it with the seven bars he made Friday. Paul would be like, ‘Man that shit is too much.' We’d be like, No it’s not – that’s what niggas want! He’d be like, 'Y'all got to shut the fuck up somewhere in there because it’s too long.' We’d look at him with this stubborn inexperienced look."
"I was a pretty arrogant MC at the time," admits Pharoahe. "Paul was the first to shut me down. He pretty much humbled me. He gave us insight into being artists, lyrically, not just MCs."
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Monch walks into Studio 1212 one day and sees a bookish, bespectacled guy fiddling with the SP-1200, the LCD readout shining his lenses. "He was just fucking with it and I'm like, 'What are you doing? You're not doing anything. You're just fucking with the machine.' I didn't hear anything for like an hour. I was like, 'Who is this fucking guy, man?' And you know, lo and behold…"
Don’t try to diss the Profess—OR!
Labels like Tommy Boy and Sleeping Bag were approaching the small Jamaica, Queens studio, so 1212 was getting busy. Owner Mick Carrey, engineers CJ Moore, Paul C and his brother Tim McKasty found themselves swamped. So Paul taught Large Professor how to mind his SPs and EQs. Monch must've caught Extra P in the throes of breaking down atom bom-boms in the drum machine.
Figuratively tweaking, loops dopple from the SP nucleus as soundwaves; Large Proton was honing chops that’d later be smackin’ on his classic Main Source debut of 1989. Maybe both Pauls took a mutton-sized sound byte from neighborhood braggart James Todd Smith: "Before I eat up the beat it has to be chopped."
Mention "the chop" to Large Professor and his face lights up like Nas firing up an X-mas tree when he heard Extra P's jingle bells on "It Ain't Hard To Tell." Large Pro puts the wood to it: "Like MC Shan said, 'We're livin' in a world of hip-hop. That's what Paul C brought to hip-hop: the chop. Back then, we felt free to throw this in and that in. Now people are like, 'You can't even use that one second.' The chop is the chop. You gotta make it do what you want it to do. Pete Rock mastered the chop; he'll make a record go crazy. I love the stabs and programming those little sharp pieces. People are not doing what Paul C was doing because the boundaries of music are different now."
True DAT. Now, 2-inch reels are bound and gagged in 'persnippity' sampling laws. Also, studio advancements like ProTools provide shortcuts. There's less manual toil involved in production, save for digging (now made easier with reissues, online bins and bounty hunters) or diddling a string-cheese keyboard. "These guys would slave hours over a loop," explains 1212 owner Carrey. "It was hard to sample on the damned things (SP-12). You could only take snippets…you had to have your record set up just right. CJ and Paul were working instruments."
"It was a step above a pause mix," CJ concurs. "You couldn’t get it into the recording medium unless you chopped it up and put it back together, one bit at a time. For example, you’ve got a kick from Ohio Players , a snare from James Brown, another snare from Herbie Hancock, a hi-hat from MFSB – you've got different (drum) kits recorded in different rooms at different times on different boards. The challenge was to tie that in together to make it sound like one kit. Make it sound better than it did when it came off the record, which was usually trashed.â€
Hip-hop producers have always pirated technology for their own discourse. Paul C, CJ Moore and Large Professor were translating the inventive spirit of hip-hop's old school by making their own studio fidgetry, just as Marley Marl was, whether it was looping, chopping, or adlibbing sound effects. There were no templates of beat production, so Studio 1212 extrapolated from owner Carrey's rock acumen.
"Critical Beatdown was mixed like a rock record," explains Ultra's TR Love. The producers at 1212 loved the music so it seemed natural to log bloodshot hours inside the notes, never napping between the boom and the bap. Like Large Professor, there are those who still labor over the minutia, the specks within hip-hop's specs, but the slapdash shine of major productions lack the lust for the dusty and so they are few.
Large Professor offers an example: "Paul C got the drums out of 'I Know You Got Soul' by Bobby (Byrd). That's incredible to me. I still can't do it. Biz would be amazed at something like that. But (most) people don't care about that these days.
"That's why 'Just Hangin' Out' is how it is. Paul C did it," he adds, giving credit to Paul out of tribute.
Main Source’s "Just Hangin’ Out" samples Gwen McCrae’s "90% Of Me," which shows how much one Paul gleaned from the other (the "funky extension" Kool Keith referenced on "Give The Drummer Some"). The song also uses Sister Nancy’s "Bam Bam" riff, a blend so seamless that Nancy’s voice becomes the other 10%. Thelonius Monk called it “Two is one†when musicians (in Paul's case, samples and producers) are in tune (the song itself) with each other.
"Large Professor was stacking loops,†says Cut Chemist. “Paul C taught him the good combination – like this loop goes with that beat. The drum programming on 'Snake Eyes,' that's 'Synthetic Substitution' chopped up really nice. That’s an example of what I think good production is and how I’m influenced – chopped to the point where it doesn’t sound chopped. It’s totally natural sounding." It’s as natural a blend as Paul C putting the hip in "chip" and the hop in "chop."
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OK. Let’s get organized. Pause and take a breath. Damn, take an L, an LP and a PC to the head. Where were we?
Back at the Studio 1212 console, things were getting busy around '88. Mick had some of Arron Fuchs’ original reels of The Meters and ancillary James Brown projects. Paul C and CJ Moore mixed many of Fuchs' Tuff City acts, including Mighty Mic Masters. A human sketch of Industry Rule #4080, Fuchs bought the licensing to "Impeach the President."
"Sometimes, Paul C was just sampling directly off the tracks," Carrey reveals. "With the master tapes, he had a separate control for each instrument and could basically build his tracks from scratch. With looping directly off the record, everything’s there. It’s a lot harder to get rid of things."
With the masters, they could isolate different bits. But when mixing from Rud’s maimed copy of “Impeach The President,†Paul and CJ had to euphemize the sound quality from the entire track. They also minced and assembled a vast in-house sound library, and other studios would call up for samples or kicks. "It became a standard, which was bad and good," evinces CJ. "We had the popularity but we were really being used. We lived in 1212. We just go home, shower come back and get back to it."
Sometimes they’d wake up in the studio to the sound of a song they’d just produced, detonating from a passing jeep or a JVC-forced radio being lugged nearby. "That was the coolest thing," says Carrey. "I heard ‘Do The James’ right outside and I’d just heard the record in the studio, sounding like shit just like a week ago. It was such a big New York record.â€
"You go in the bins at the local record store, look at the credits and find out that people that did things were right in your backyard," says Prince Po.
Studio 1212 was also home to MCs whose reps didn't transcend their zip code – but that's all that mattered. These were the small, scarce pressings wax collectors now froth over: Phase & Rhythm's "Hyperactive" (one of Paul C's best productions), Lotto, Mighty Mic Masters, Percee P and soon-to-be-better-known acts like CJ's Black By Demand, Son of Bazerk, Super Lover Cee and Casanova Rud, Stezo, Queen Latifah and finally with legends like Rakim and Biz.
"When these guys would put records out we’d get calls to the studio – because it was listed on the label. I’d have little kids calling up from across the country: ‘Is Paul C there? I really like his record," recalls Carrey. Biz Markie sought 1212 when he heard about Paul C’s legendary EQs. CJ emphasizes, "We were reachable and affordable so we got the core of artists in Queens. People would come in on the strength of 'This is a studio where that happened and I want to be a part of that."
Large Professor tips his thinking cap, "1212 was right there in Jamaica so you could stay in the hood and get busy. Wow, word."
We are left winded.
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3
Need a haircut?
Up in West Haven, Connecticut, on a day like any other, you can glissade into S&S Hair Cuts and get an aerodynamic fade, a Gumby or a Ronald Reagan. Just like it was ‘89. Despite the crazy noise, you interject, "It’s my turn." Despite your hydrochloric pleataloons, the Barber waves you to an empty chair. Your Balleys slip on an activator slick and you skid across the floor like an EPMD dancer, weaving a S-Curl formation in and out of the queue of chairs. You land in the last seat.
Barber asks, “To the max?†You reply, “Just rip the cut.â€
Barber gets into his move, spinning you around at 33 rpms as you note the album covers carouseling by on the wall. The box-cuts rocked on these covers look tighter than the UPS box-butt on top of your head. The chair stops, your skull snaps and the clippers begin their slurred buzz. As tiny polka dots of fuzz float past your eyes, you realize the guy on these album covers looks suspiciously like the guy cutting your hair – and they both look like Stezo, the rapper with the Reagan you once saw doing the "Steve Martin" in EPMD’s "You Gots To Chill" video. As your ears lower, your brows raise. You jerk up, causing the clippers to zig a drunken zag across your head. You wrench a 12-inch single off the wall, causing the barber to freak the funk out. In fact, the record you pull is "Freak The Funk," and your barber is indeed the rapper Stezo.
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The back of Stezo's "Freak The Funk" single features a small snapshot of a white guy with record bags under his eyes and the panegyrics "Dedicated to the memory of Paul C (McKasty) who's work and love for music inspired many." Paul C inspired many because many a producer sampled a sample he mixed rather than the source itself. Paul C mixed Stezo’s ’89 LP Crazy Noise and his opening break on "It’s My Turn" gets sampled more than its original source, Skullsnaps’ "It’s A New Day." A scarce English funk recording from 1973, the Skullsnaps LP was harder to find than your mind upon first hearing it – so producers used Paul C’s mix for a louder more accessible version.
"Most everyone who samples Skullsnaps gets it off my album," vaunts Steve "Stezo" Williams, happy to have spread the lovely beat. "One day Erick Sermon pulled up in his Benz and said, ‘Get in the car, Steve.'" The E Double had a tape of Crazy Noise and kept playing that beginning of "It’s My Turn" over and over again, as if looping a pause-tape live. Stezo chuckles, "He kept saying, ‘Let us have that beat, Steve. Let us have that beat.'†Chill. E already had the beat, unbeknownst to him, which he eventually used for Sermon's "Hittin' Switches" and a pair of Das EFX songs.
On Stezo's "To The Max," a piano struts toward two hopeful guitar chirps and walks on by to meet a single, gleaming horn which toots the arrangement. While produced by Stezo and his partner DJ Chris “Cosby†Lowe, the tambourine wiggle and extra kick and consequent extra foot-in-that-ass is Paul C. "When we were recording," laughs Stezo, "Paul wasn't shy to tell us, 'Yo that shit is wack. Do it over." Paul C made Stezo rewrite "Talking Sense" three times, evidence of his love for the music he engineered. Rocking a frayed Zeppelin T-shirt and a Stetsa hat, Paul would be at 1212 adding "bump" insurance" on his DAT levels before sending them to get mastered. "At the time, people who mastered rap albums would try to take the levels down," explains Stezven. "Paul would put extra boost in it so it wouldn't take from the music."
Paul C collaborated with partner CJ Moore on Black By Demand’s "Can’t Get Enough," its horns blat like a remastered funk 45; and produced Phase and Rhythm for Funky Tune Records (Both groups would later sign to Tommy Boy). On Phase and Rhythm’s "Brainfood" single, Paul C pulls a Steinski and drops in a dialog bite, "This record will not be heard so we can bring you the following special report," and what follows is a vocal bit from an instructional guitar 45. On the "Hyperactive" b-side, Rhythm rhymes: "When I first heard this beat, it had to hype me." No wonder. Paul killed it with the drums from Tommy Roe’s "Sweet Pea," hitting so hard that the peas passed on – from School of Hard Knocks to MC Lyte to Attica Blues and others who’ve reverberated the same.
Take a look around. Paul C was getting ready to blow up like clippers hitting Jeru’s dreds. He was grooming Organized Konfusion and played a crucial role in making one of New York’s biggest records, Superlover Cee and Cassanova Rud's "Do The James." His young career even survived the bad idea of hip-house with his version of Ultra’s "Traveling At The Speed Of Thought." And, according to Mick Carrey and CJ Moore, Devo and the Rolling Stones were approaching Paul C for beats.
Fortunately for us, the phone trilled. It’s Rakim, aka "Mr. Sexy."
Before your head starts ringing, jump forward 12 years, say, about the time you found out Dr. Dre was to produce Rakim’s next album. Imagine the backstage scene at the "Up In Smoke Tour," looking like a booty casting call for Eric B & Rakim’s “Don’t Sweat The Technique†video. Dre's sitting there, headphones snug, drowning out Eminem’s whine, listening to “Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em†and panting like the Commodores’ “Assembly Line."
Now back that clock up. Paul C was studying N.W.A.'s Straight Outta Compton when he was getting ready to work with Rakim. One day Stezo partner Chris Lowe was over at Paul C’s house checking out records. “I looked out the window and Rakim pulled up in a white Mercedes with a Louis Vuitton top. I was like, Oh shit, it’s about to be on!"
"Just before he passed, I know Paul and Rakim were getting close," remembers Large Professor. "I would be over at Paul’s house and hear the messages from Ra. I was like wow, he’s getting ready to get busy with Eric B & Rakim."
Paul would call CJ Moore and audition beats he wanted to use. "I wanted to get on that project," smiles CJ. "I think Paul’s wife was friends with Rakim’s girl and they were introduced that way. I gave Paul a Steely Dan record we were going to use with Rakim. I was like, 'You can just play that shit over.' So (Paul) played the bass over the phone – that's when I noticed just how gifted he was. It was the way he played. A lot of records we sampled aren’t jamming records. There were simple lines. But it was about how long you held the note, how you plucked it, how you approached it with velocity. Paul C understood how what we sampled was played."
Everybody he worked with, from Mikey D to Rahzel to Monch, remembers Paul C chomping at the chance to match his beats with the appropriate lyrical arsenal. The R stood between the cue of the record and the "S" on any MC's soon-to-be-deflated chessst. For production ideas, Paul C makes tapes for Rakim and they build over then-unknown funk gems like Funk Inc., 24 Carat Black and Tony Avlon. [CHECK]
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On the night of July 16th 1989, Paul C engineered his last session. It was with a new Boston group called the Almighty RSO, managed then, as they are now, by David Mayes, a Harvard student who was put out a small hip-hop newsletter called The Source. As usual, Paul would get home late and exhausted.
The next morning, Tim McKasty found his younger brother dead, murdered in his sleep from three gunshot wounds to the head and neck. He was only 24. To this day, this case remains unsolved. "We were all stunned," remembers 1212 owner Mick Carrey. "I was upset for years; there’s no healing when you get to know somebody like him. It was such a shock. He would never touch or hurt a person."
"Paul was a kind-hearted, nice guy. He was almost like an angel, really," says Large Professor. "I was at the New Music Seminar and Joe Fatal told me Paul C was dead because he heard it from Rakim. I didn’t think it was real. I tried to call him and call him and then I called 1212. I spoke to Paul every day back then, every day." Rahzel, Pharoah Monch, Prince Po—nobody believed it. “Him? Naah,†adds Stezo. “I wasn’t worried about him dyin’. Not Paul."
“We were young," recalls Monch. "No one I knew had been murdered. I had never experienced that. I had only seen it on TV. So when you hear that kind of news, you don’t believe it. We went home to call Paul and see what the fuck is going on.â€
Prince Po went over to Paul’s house a couple of hours after his brother found him and was greeted at the door by grim detectives in sports jackets. "My vibe was like, 'Damn I ain't heard from Paul in a minute.' Usually he’ll call and kick it real quick even if he was really busy. I was just going over to check him out. I didn’t know he was dead. I lost it. They took me in and questioned me. I was distraught because I just couldn’t believe what they was tellin' me."
A bewildering contagion of rumors surrounded the brutal crime because Paul C had no enemies. "The first thing that came to my mind," says CJ, "was Superlover Cee. I'm like, my partner's fucking dead because of these dudes. That was everybody's perception at the time but that was just on the surface."
Cee and Rud's reputation for hustling spawned the theory they had gotten into some trouble and the killer who came looking for them found Paul instead. "They was trying to get their dollar until they came up with the record deal," recalls Ultramagnetic MC's TR Love. "But you can’t bring that street shit into the records. They tried both in the same realm and it wasn’t working."
"At the funeral, STP (Organized Konfusion) were right there with me," reflects Large Professor. "For me, it was hard. He got shot up and that’s all I knew. It was hard for me to understand. There were speculations about why he got shot. The people it might’ve been were actually sitting there at the funeral. It was confusing. I don’t like to speak on that end of it because that’s the part that God knows and in some way will reveal to us one day."
Initially, everybody was a suspect and all the artists who worked with Paul C were interrogated. Rud and Cee were cleared of any involvement but only after their reputation had been blotted. While accusations spread quickly, the news of their innocence only trickled because nobody knew what to believe. The retraction was too late and the damage was done. Rud and Cee’s career as one Queens’ most talented groups was frozen in the moment of "Do The James," their classic debut Girls I Got ‘Em Locked and their bond with Paul C. In ’93, the duo attempted an EP on Wild Pitch called Blow Up The Spot, but the music was a foible and lacked the acuity of their debut.
"After that I kept my distance from whomever we associated with at that time," says TR Love. "I didn’t know the real story. I didn’t know who was who. I didn’t want to judge no one and get my feelings worked up. We (Ultramagnetic) were getting ready to go overseas. Sitting around New York wouldn’t have done us any good."
Tim McKasty promised to give TR Love Paul’s discs with the samples and drum programming but then decided to keep them. "I don’t blame him," TR says. "They had to have something to remember him by. For a while things were uncontrollably bitter between the family and the artists. We’d check on them. Then his wife disappeared and Tim went into seclusion."
Prince Po and Monch were hanging out a lot with Paul around the time of his death. "His wife was black and that made (the murder fall-out) controversial," says Po. "After it happened his family wasn’t really trying to associate with black people no more. I kind of understood; he was their son. They moved. I saw Tim afterwards. It (the murder) nerved him out. He had a jumpy way about him and it was sad because you know where it’s from. I felt real bad for him."
The theories surrounding the death get even wilder. Paul C's last recording session the night of July 16th was with Almighty RSO, a group whose reputation isn't exactly Doug E. Fresh clean, and that conjures its own speculation. More disheartening are suggestions Paul's wife was somehow involved. "(Paul's death) taught me a valuable lesson about paying attention to what goes on around you," Prince Po says cryptically. "The few times when she was around and we was around she was very distant. They seemed more like friends than being married. He hung out a lot with us. Paul would complain to me about when he gives his wife something, instead of her building their shit up she’d run and give it to her sister. It was stressful times because Paul worked really hard."
Lucrative contracts for producers are the norm today – when making beats for money, the cheesier the better and the mo' cheddar – but back then, producers worked hard for money. Just like Paul – except Paul didn't like dealing with contracts. "I saw where a lot of his stress was coming from," Po continues. "“He said ‘I don’t have to do contracts. I can survive off the ones I trust if my wife do right by the money. Eric B & Rakim, Latifah, Biz Mark was coming into play and he had gotten so much recognition off the Ultra. I guess a greedy bug bit his wife in the ass. She was after money that wasn’t received yet. She was getting the perception that money was there that wasn’t there."
At the time, hip-hop murders weren't profitable and there was no real hip-hop media to speak of, so the press wasn't interested. The unsolved mystery of Paul's death ran on an episode of America’s Most Wanted, leading to the arrest of a suspect in the small military town of Fayetteville, North Carolina. He was soon released for lack of evidence.
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Paul’s death left his friends in the lurch. Phase and Rhythm vanished after CJ Moore mixed their lone Tommy Boy single, “Swollen Pockets.†Sleeping Bag went under, EPMD was picked up by Def Jam and, without Paul C’s guidance, Stezo and his dance moves were in limbo. “It was fucked up, because I felt selfish,†says Monch. “I was like, ‘What do we do now?’†Organized Konfusion was even approached by A&R at Paul C’s wake, eager to sign the group and assume beat duties suddenly left vacant. “It was kind of weird at the time, but I also felt selfish—thinking about the future of Organized Konfusion.â€
TR Love and CJ Moore couldn’t even look at an SP or drum machine for a while. "The closest thing to Paul was me," explains CJ Moore. "But I didn’t want nothing to do with nothing. I was so tired (already) even though I was young.†This comes from an innovator in his own right who, at age 13, would show up at 1212’s door at 3 in the morning, asking Mick if he had any studio time, always feverish to make beats. "A part of me was taken," continues CJ. "People never saw Paul or my face. Sometimes you’re not appreciated until your death."
CJ turned down the opportunity to work on the Eric B & Rakim album, so Large Professor assumed production duties. "I felt like I had to keep it real," recalls Large Professor, looking down, hands wrought together. "I just wanted to show love how Paul showed love. It was like a dream. Paul showed me the fundamentals and as soon I’m getting into it, I’m working with Eric B & Rakim."
Paul C hooked up the Commodores loop for "Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em" while Rakim added the strobing keyboards from Bob James’ "Night On Bald Mountain." Paul C produced all of "Run For Cover" as the drums from Tony Avlon’s “Sexy Coffee Pot†kept frantic pace. "In The Ghetto" was yet another seamless blend of the Pauls' productionalities. The former brought the 24 Carat Black piano and strings while the latter dropped in the Bill Withers’ drums – and the eighteenth letter flows over sixteenth notes. Yet the credits for the Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em LP acknowledge neither Paul C nor Large Professor’s contributions, which is nothing new. Mark the 45 King ghost-produced much of Eric B & Rakim’s second LP, Follow The Leader.
Stezo and Rakim met while both sat on each other's 1212 sessions, just to vibe with Paul C. Like Stezo, Rakim put a photo of Paul C on the back of Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em, right next to the picture commemorating his father, William Griffin. "I had to put his picture on there,†affirms Stezo about the "Freak The Funk" single. "His sister and mother came down to the Studio and said ‘Thank you.’ A lot of people didn’t bring his records back to him but we made it our business to make it up to his family. That was the main thing I think Rakim remembered me for. One day he saw me on 125th St. and we talked about Paul C. He said he missed him."
Studio 1212 trudged on, and CJ continued working with Paul C’s ingenuity in mind. While producing Tommy Boy act Live Squad, CJ dangled mics out the window to record skits of staged car jackings in the 1212 parking lot. Mick Carrey awoke to gun shots and called the cops, unintentionally adding to the scene’s authenticity. The Live Squad was too live for Tommy Boy and the only thing that got out was a bootleg video whose highlights included a baby being tossed out a car window and a cop being shot. In ’95, Studio 1212 burned to the ground.
CJ Moore called Paul C a "word processor," for good reason. Pharoahe Monch, Kool Keith and Rahzel continue to spit in the face of technology while applying Paul C studio innovations, making words really stretch their role. Casanova Rud has been submitting tracks for various Queensbridge artists, while Paul’s brother went from being AWOL to resurfacing on sundry Bad Boy projects – playing keyboards for Carl Thomas and Puff Daddy. Mick Carrey runs Soho Music and is partners with Stretch Armstrong, who originally brought Percee P to 1212.
On the outgoing message at S&S Haircuts, you’ll hear that Stezo is still recording.
"I’ll always remember what he instilled in me,†says Large “Buy-the-album-when-I-drop-it†Professor who’d go on to make a pantheon of classics with Paul C reflected his beat specs: Main Source's Breaking Atoms, Kool G Rap, Nasty Nas and some of hip hop’s most coveted remixes in Gang Starr (“Gotta Get Overâ€), Slick Rick (“It’s A Boyâ€) and Common Sense (“Resurrectionâ€). "I know he felt that Main Source record,†emphasizes Large Professor, choked up with excitement because he knew that the project was overseen and overstood, a la Scott La Rock. “I know it would’ve done him proud. A lot of stuff I was doing was just for…†Large Professor trails off into his thoughts and looks down at his hands.
The Paul C catalog finishes Large Professor’s thought, a thought that can be traced back to the ghost notes and what you heard and what you think you heard. Whether it’s the faint eerie “ha!†of the Commodores in “Let The Rhythm Hit ‘Em" or "The Producer Speaks,†a bonus beat mixed and arranged by Paul C for a group called 360.
Read between the drums and you’ll find the engineer.
Prince Poetry is still working on tracks as well, trying to maintain someway, somehow. "If I was to head to Monch's house now and take the local streets, I would pass by Paul’s house, at the beginning of Rosedale. I pass by the funeral home where they had the service. Three days before (today), I told the cab to let me off early because I wanted to just walk past (Paul C’s) crib – and now you asked me to do an interview about him. The weight of the whole thing was enough for me to keep it as a strong memory but put it to the side because it’s too much to think about."
“Paul C to the organisms…Let the beat ride…Let the beat ride…â€
--Organized Konfusion
Some of the albums and works he was involved in...
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:05 am Post subject: Cold Crush Brothers...
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The Cold Crush Brothers are a legendary hip hop group that formed in 1978 in the Bronx, New York, the home of hip hop, during its beginning, alongside other hip hop icons such as Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five, Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force, Grand Wizard Theodore & The Fantastic Five, and DJs Baron and Breakout and The Funky Four Plus One. The group's original lineup consisted of the founder, Original DJ Tony Tone, Easy A.D., DJ Charlie Chase, Whipper Whip, Mr. Tee, and Dot-A-Rock. Eventually, Whipper Whip and Dot-A-Rock left and joined the Fantastic Five, which they considered to be a more established group at the time. The Fantastic Five was originally the "L" Brothers, which consisted of DJ Mean Gene, DJ Cordio, DJ Grand Wizard Theodore, MC Smiley, Master Rob, the Original Kevie Kev and Busy Bee Starski. Tony Tone, Easy A.D. and Charlie Chase brought in Grandmaster Caz (formerly DJ Casanova Fly), Almighty Kay Gee and J.D.L. Money Ray (Eric Hoskins) would be added to the group in the late '80s.
The Cold Crush Brothers were especially known for their memorable routines which included harmonies, melodies and stage-stomping performances. The Cold Crush Brothers set the standard for emceeing. They became known as the Rolling Stones of hip hop. Because of the attention they began to attract, many groups would try to battle them to gain street credibility and for hip hop supremacy. This would lead to a fierce and well known rivalry with The Fantastic Five, culminating with the first battle in hip hop history on July 3, 1981 between the two groups. The grand prize was winner takes all, $1000 cash. The Fantastic Five won the battle.
The Cold Crush Brothers began to release records commercially. The first single was "Weekend" on Elite Records. It was a party and dance record that desribed ways to have fun on the weekends. The second single was "Punk Rock Rap" on Tuff City Records and distributed by CBS. This was the first time an independent hip hop label and a major record company worked together. "Punk Rock Rap" was the first recording to fuse hip hop and rock together. The phrase, "Oh My God!" sampled on Doug E. Fresh and the Get Fresh Crew's single, "The Show", came from "Punk Rock Rap". The most successful Cold Crush single to date is "Fresh, Wild, Fly & Bold", released in 1984, which sold 16,000 units in its first week of release. A distribution dispute between Tuff City Records and Profile Records hindered the sales of the single with the most potential of reaching gold status.
The Cold Crush Brothers toured all five boroughs of New York and as far as Boston before commercially-released records. Their popularity was strengthened by the sale of their live performances that were recorded on cassette by Tape Master (Elvis Moreno). These shows were taped and distributed worldwide via word-of-mouth promotion. The movie, "Wild Style" is now considered to be the seminal work that correctly depicts hip hop culture. The Cold Crush Brothers were featured in the 1982 movie Wild Style, the seminal work depicting hip hop culture. In the movie, the Cold Crush was featured in a number of scenes, most notable was that featuring the Brothers' face off against their arch-nemesis, the Fantastic Five. A year after the movie was released, the Cold Crush Brothers took hip hop abroad with tour dates in Japan and Europe.
The Cold Crush Brothers became involved in one of hip hop's most historic moments when Joey Robinson (son of Sugar Hill Records founder, Sylvia Robinson) happened to hear (part-time club bouncer and former manager of Cold Crush member Grandmaster Caz) Big Bank Hank rapping to a tape of Caz while working at a pizzeria in New Jersey. Robinson informed Hank that he was forming a group called the Sugar Hill Gang and asked if Hank would like to join. Hank accepted, although he wasn't an MC. Hank went to Grandmaster Caz and asked him for some rhymes. Caz laid his rhyme books on the bed and said, "Take whatever you want," with the understanding that Hank would compensate Caz at a later time. Caz's lyrics landed in a song by the Sugar Hill Gang called "Rapper's Delight". The song became a huge hit in 1979 and was the first hip hop single to land on the top 40 charts. Caz never received any credit or compensation for the rhymes that he contributed.
In October 2002, member Money Ray passed away. The group still performs across the United States.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: Blaq Poet...Huuuuhh Haaaaa
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Blaq Poet
“Poet Has Comeâ€, but he’s been here for a long time. Those who don’t know better do their homework and check their charts. In Hip Hop, where each year counts triple, he’s a veteran: “I’ve always been rappin’, nahamean? The first time I came out was in eightyf**kin’six with Rockwell Noel on the single “Beat You Downâ€, going at KRS One. He was tryin’ to sh*t on the hood […], Shan was playing around, not really trying to address the issue, I was like f*ck that,
I’m reppin’ the hood, I’m not Juice Crew…†Just after that, “All Hell’s Breakin’ Loose†(New-Sound Records) came out, a single produced by MC T where Poet calls out names and starts trouble way before 50 Cent would…
Poet, “Pâ€, and long time companion DJ Hot Day, “HDâ€, created the group “PHD†and continued to set the record straight with “Without Warning†(1990 Tuff City Records), an LP dedicated to hardcore. Fans were expecting a second album but, “you can’t tell the labels how to spend their money […], we ended up not fuckin’ with them.†Now Hot Day goes about his mixtapes, Poet about his business…
Louis Chandler A.K.A Screwball gets killed on the block. Poet sends the biggest shout-out ever by creating the group Screwball, with partners KL, Kyron and Hostyle. “He was my man, the only n**ger I knew that would ride for me, ride and die for me.†The first album, Y2K (Tommy Boy / Hydra), came out in 2000. The collaboration with DJ Premier begins with the production of two tracks for the album: “F.A.Y.B.A.N†(F*ck All You B*tch Ass N**gers) and “Seen It All.†“I knew about Primo for years and he knew about me since PHD but we wasn’t cool like that,
I’m not the type of n**ger going to parties to meet people and sh*t. My men Mike Heron and Jerry Famolari were helping putting the album together, they got me back in touch with Preem; from that moment, it was on. He made two beats for us, I decided to f*ck with “F.A.Y.B.A.N†solo, I kept the second one, “Seen It Allâ€, for me and the rest of the group.
In 2000, Poet also spit his unique flow on “Straight Outta QB†(Columbia / Ill Will), along with Jungle and good friend Cormega. Not only it’s normal for Poet to be on the album, it’s also normal that NAS gives him N.W.A’s legendary beat (“Straight Outta Comptonâ€). “…Scratch my balls, then shake your hand, […] pee in your Tropicana, put it back in the fridge…â€
What other “N†than Poet would have the right “A?â€
In 2001, a second Screwball album comes out: “Loyalty†(Landspeed /Hydra) where Poet describes his dramatic life in “The Bio.†The realness of the lyrics is almost shocking. When other rappers complain about the cards they were dealt, Poet claims: “I’ll be back like Schwarzenegger, Terminator, but for now, all I wanna do is get my weight upâ€
Even though the group Screwball is over, the spirit isn’t and Poet is back, stronger than ever. In 2003, Blaq Poet is finally signed on DJ Premier’s label, Year Round Records.
The fans were expecting this event for a while; here it is, the first single, “Poet Has Come†(B/W) “A Message From Poet†was released on October 21, 2003. A second single and the album are in process as we speak. 2004 will see the rise of Black Poet and his label mates Sha and Panchi from NYGz as well as Rave Roulette.
Poet still lives on the “front lineâ€, in Queensbridge Houses. In his apartment, on the “fire wallâ€, Louis “Screwball†Chandler keeps an eye on things and the lyrics are blasting: “Year Round’s the label, the logo’s a calendar, I’ m Blaq Poet destroyin’ all challengers […] Poet has come to lead y'all n**gers, Hip Hop is starving, I came to feed y’all n**gersâ€. No doubt, it’s a pleasure to be hungry when the chef’s no other than “Queensbridge Architect.â€
Poet used to battle KRS-One back in the 90's, the 1987 track "Beat you down"was recorded in response to MC Shan's "The bridge is over", then KRS-One did the "I'm still #1 remix" and claimed that 'MC Poet aint down with us'.
Poet has recorded music with The Beatnuts,Mobb Deep and Cormega amongst others.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:07 am Post subject: The God Rakim...
Rakim is still my favourite ever MC...and Follow The Leader is favourite my Hip Hop album of all time (Only a handful of artists made rap like this kind in 1988 and it's timeless and a blueprint sound and style for so many artists, it's influence is still felt today-Jaz
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They never had a mainstream hit of their own, but during rap's so-called golden age in the late '80s, Eric B. & Rakim were almost universally recognized as the premier DJ/MC team in all of hip-hop. Not only was their chemistry superb, but individually, each represented the absolute state of the art in their respective skills. Eric B. was a hugely influential DJ and beatmaker whose taste for hard-hitting James Brown samples touched off a stampede through the Godfather of Soul's back catalog that continues up to the present day. Rakim, meanwhile, still tops fan polls as the greatest MC of all time. He crafted his rhymes like poetry, filling his lines with elaborate metaphors and complex internal rhymes, and he played with the beat like a jazzman, earning a reputation as the smoothest-flowing MC ever to pick up a mic. His articulation was clear, his delivery seemingly effortless, and his influence on subsequent MCs incalculable. Together, their peerless technique on the microphone and turntables upped the ante for all who followed them, and their advancement of hip-hop as an art form has been acknowledged by everyone from Gang Starr to the Wu-Tang Clan to Eminem. While certain elements of their sound might come off as slightly dated today, it's also immediately clear how much of a hand Eric B. & Rakim had in leading hip-hop into the modern age.
Eric B. was born Eric Barrier in 1965 in Elmhurst, Queens; his future partner, William Griffin, Jr., was born in 1968 and also hailed from the suburbs of New York, specifically Wyandanch, Long Island. At age 16, Griffin converted to Islam and adopted the name Rakim Allah. Barrier played trumpet and guitar early on, but switched to the turntables in high school, and eventually landed a job as the mobile DJ for radio station WBLS. It was there that he met Rakim, and the two officially formed a partnership in 1985. Their first single -- "Eric B. Is President" (an ode to Barrier's DJ skills) b/w "My Melody" -- was released on the tiny Harlem-based indie label Zakia. It was a street-level sensation during the summer of 1986, and the duo was picked up by the larger 4th & Broadway imprint. The equally monumental singles "I Ain't No Joke" and "I Know You Got Soul" sampled James Brown and his cohort Bobby Byrd, respectively, and their utter funkiness began to revolutionize the sound of hip-hop. Moreover, Rakim's line "pump up the volume" on the latter track was in turn sampled itself, becoming the basis for M/A/R/R/S' hit of the same name.
In 1987, 4th & Broadway issued the duo's full-length debut, Paid in Full; accompanied by a mighty underground buzz, the record climbed into the Top Ten on the R&B LP charts (as would all of their subsequent albums). Additionally, the British DJ duo Coldcut remixed the title cut into a bona fide U.K. smash. The exposure helped make "Paid in Full"'s drum track one of the most sampled beats this side of James Brown's "Funky Drummer"; it provided the foundation for Milli Vanilli's "Girl You Know It's True," among many other, more credible hits. On the heels of Paid in Full, Eric B. & Rakim signed with MCA subsidiary Uni and consolidated their reputation with another landmark hip-hop album, 1988's Follow the Leader. The title cut took its place among the classic singles already in their canon, and Jody Watley soon tapped the duo for a guest spot on her 1989 single "Friends," which brought them into the pop Top Ten for the first and only time.
The 1990 follow-up Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em proved relatively disappointing from a creative standpoint, although 1992's slightly jazzier Don't Sweat the Technique was a more consistent affair that bolstered their legacy. As it turned out, the record also completed that legacy. The duo's contract with MCA was almost up, and they had discussed the possibility of each recording a solo album. Unfortunately, the resulting tension over the future of their partnership ultimately destroyed it. In the aftermath of the breakup, various legal issues prevented both parties from starting their solo careers for quite some time. The only recording to appear was Rakim's first solo cut, "Heat It Up," which was featured on the soundtrack of the 1993 film Gunmen. Finally, in 1995, Eric B. issued his self-titled solo debut on his own 95th Street label. Rakim, meanwhile, signed with Universal and delivered a pair of acclaimed comeback albums, 1997's The 18th Letter and 1999's The Master.
Rakim also recorded an album with Dr Dre but he didn't like the finished product so it is unlikely it will ever see a release.
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That was a great Paul C read, I never new much about him other than people referring to him as an innovator and giving a shortlist of some of his work. Thanks a lot for posting. _________________
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: Koooooollllllll DJ Red Alert....(yyyyyyyyeeeaaaahhhhh)
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It has been said; that it is important to remember where you come from, in order to get the proper perspective on where you are going.
Just ask Red Alert, and I'm sure he will agree that it was his personal experience while growing up in Harlem that has laid the foundation for his musical street smarts/savvy as well as motivation, determination and consistency. DJ Red Alert's World Famous Radio Mix Show can be heard daily Monday through Friday on New York City's Power 105.1 FM. In addition DJ Red Alert has a radio show heard nationwide on the all new Sirius Satellite Network.
DJ Red Alert is recognized and respected worldwide as one of the founding fathers of Hip-Hop music and culture! He has received numerous awards and accolades including a special award at the first annual Rap Hall of Fame Awards show. The prestigious Lifetime Achievement Award from IMPACT music trade publication for 1998 and the 1997 Mix Show DJ of the year award from GAVIN. In addition DJ Red Alert was named one of the 50 most influential people in music by ROLLING STONE magazine. Red Alert was recently inducted into the ROCK AND ROLL HALL of FAME in Cleveland, Ohio with his own exhibit. The only DJ of this era so honored! Kool DJ Red Alert was named an honorary ambassador to the United Nations in recognition of his contributions in the field of music. In June 2003 Red Alert was inducted to the Bronx Walk of Fame where past honoree's have included such luminaries as General Colin Powell. DJ Red Alert has appeared in over 50 music videos.
Red was reared by his maternal grandparents, who were from Antiqua. Red's love for those around-the-way basketball games led him to his high school team at DeWitt Clinton. No doubt this is where he was dubbed the nickname, "RED"; for his red hair and alert response on the court. Red later received a college basketball scholarship. During the last of his high school years, Red hung out at the Saturday night parties thrown by DJ Kool Herc (the first hip-hop deejay) and his emcee Coke La Rock (who Red credits as "the very first rapper") at clubs throughout the west Bronx.
Red studied the style of music Kool Herc played -- James Brown, Dennis Coffey, Baby Huey, the Isley Brothers -- and the way he blended the vinyl. On Fridays, Red found himself venturing downtown to check out star disco deejays, such as: Grandmaster Flash, Together Brothers, and Pete DJ Jones.
It wasn't long before he was jammin' at parties on his own equipment. It was important to be up on what was happening on the New York scene, so Red was now attending legendary parties throughout the Bronx. Red caught Grandmaster Flash at the Black Door and the Dixie Club, Kool DJ A.J. at the Morehouse Center and Afrika Bambaata at JHS 123.
By this time, Red had gathered enough record selection and record spinning insight to teach his cousin DJ Jazzy Jay the basics of the art. Jazzy Jay in turn introduced Red to Bambaata. Bambaata taught Red about rock, reggae and new wave music.
Learning about the various styles of dance oriented music, Red soon became the deejay for Bambaata and his Zulu Nation, joining the likes of Afrika Islam, the Soul Sonic Force, Grandmaster DST and the Rock Steady Crew. Through this association, Red began to spin records downtown at such clubs as Negril and Danceteria.
While deejaying at the Roxy, he met Barry Mayo, then program director of NY's WRKS 98.7 KISS FM. A man of considerable taste, Mayo hired Red to inaugurate the "Dance Mix Party." Red remained at 98.7 KISS FM for 11 years, becoming the top DJ at the station. During his tenure at KISS, Red became the first individual to popularize dancehall music at a major radio station! In 1994 DJ Red Alert moved to New York's Hot 97 radio station where he did two daily shows. They were the "The Twelve O'clock Old School at Noon Mix" and the "Five O'clock Free Ride." In the year 2001 Red returned home to 98.7 Kiss FM in New York City. The World Famous Kool DJ Red Alert Old School at Noon Mixshow can be heard daily Monday thru Friday on New York City's Power 105.1 FM.
Before you knew it, Red met up with producer Vincent Davis, of the Vintertainment Record label, through DJ Chuck Chillout, to produce Red's First record, "Hip Hop On Wax, Volume 2." Red was well on the way to becoming one of the most noted names in the business. Red deejayed for artist Sparky D during the Roxanne, Roxanne era. He also became a member of the Boogie Down Productions, touring the country with KRS One. Since then, Red has done super mixes for compilation albums on Next Plateau Records and Epic Records.
Now a seasoned veteran as radio jock, club jock and studio man, Kool DJ Red Alert has established his place as one of the world's premier DJ's. To top it off Red Alert owns a production and management company, Red Alert Productions (RAP). The company garnered a reputation for developing and promoting new talent. RED is responsible for launching the career of such widely acclaimed acts as the Jungle Brothers, Tribe Called Quest, Black Sheep and Queen Latifah to name four.
In addition DJ Red Alert was the first to introduce numerous hit records including "Soul II Soul" by Jazzy B and "Hold On" by the group En Vogue! If an artist ever hears his or her stuff on Red Alert's shows, you can bet they can assume their work is indeed truly slammin'.
RED continues to be a catalyst for a lot of up and coming artist's. He represents the history and future of hip-hop music and culture. He is constantly surging forward to break new ground in this business called entertainment.
Red says, "You have to learn how to break a new artist on record by working it in and out with familiar records. People are scared to fall. It's OK to fall. You must learn how to fall and be strong so you can come back. A DJ is like the pied piper."
With his attitude toward life and professionalism regarding his craft, surely we are in good hands!
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: Koooooollllllll DJ Red Alert....(yyyyyyyyeeeaaaahhhhh)
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It has been said; that it is important to remember where you come from, in order to get the proper perspective on where you are going.
Just ask Red Alert, and I'm sure he will agree that it was his personal experience while growing up in Harlem that has laid the foundation for his musical street smarts/savvy as well as motivation, determination and consistency. DJ Red Alert's World Famous Radio Mix Show can be heard daily Monday through Friday on New York City's Power 105.1 FM. In addition DJ Red Alert has a radio show heard nationwide on the all new Sirius Satellite Network.
DJ Red Alert is recognized and respected worldwide as one of the founding fathers of Hip-Hop music and culture! He has received numerous awards and accolades including a special award at the first annual Rap Hall of Fame Awards show. The prestigious Lifetime Achievement Award from IMPACT music trade publication for 1998 and the 1997 Mix Show DJ of the year award from GAVIN. In addition DJ Red Alert was named one of the 50 most influential people in music by ROLLING STONE magazine. Red Alert was recently inducted into the ROCK AND ROLL HALL of FAME in Cleveland, Ohio with his own exhibit. The only DJ of this era so honored! Kool DJ Red Alert was named an honorary ambassador to the United Nations in recognition of his contributions in the field of music. In June 2003 Red Alert was inducted to the Bronx Walk of Fame where past honoree's have included such luminaries as General Colin Powell. DJ Red Alert has appeared in over 50 music videos.
Red was reared by his maternal grandparents, who were from Antiqua. Red's love for those around-the-way basketball games led him to his high school team at DeWitt Clinton. No doubt this is where he was dubbed the nickname, "RED"; for his red hair and alert response on the court. Red later received a college basketball scholarship. During the last of his high school years, Red hung out at the Saturday night parties thrown by DJ Kool Herc (the first hip-hop deejay) and his emcee Coke La Rock (who Red credits as "the very first rapper") at clubs throughout the west Bronx.
Red studied the style of music Kool Herc played -- James Brown, Dennis Coffey, Baby Huey, the Isley Brothers -- and the way he blended the vinyl. On Fridays, Red found himself venturing downtown to check out star disco deejays, such as: Grandmaster Flash, Together Brothers, and Pete DJ Jones.
It wasn't long before he was jammin' at parties on his own equipment. It was important to be up on what was happening on the New York scene, so Red was now attending legendary parties throughout the Bronx. Red caught Grandmaster Flash at the Black Door and the Dixie Club, Kool DJ A.J. at the Morehouse Center and Afrika Bambaata at JHS 123.
By this time, Red had gathered enough record selection and record spinning insight to teach his cousin DJ Jazzy Jay the basics of the art. Jazzy Jay in turn introduced Red to Bambaata. Bambaata taught Red about rock, reggae and new wave music.
Learning about the various styles of dance oriented music, Red soon became the deejay for Bambaata and his Zulu Nation, joining the likes of Afrika Islam, the Soul Sonic Force, Grandmaster DST and the Rock Steady Crew. Through this association, Red began to spin records downtown at such clubs as Negril and Danceteria.
While deejaying at the Roxy, he met Barry Mayo, then program director of NY's WRKS 98.7 KISS FM. A man of considerable taste, Mayo hired Red to inaugurate the "Dance Mix Party." Red remained at 98.7 KISS FM for 11 years, becoming the top DJ at the station. During his tenure at KISS, Red became the first individual to popularize dancehall music at a major radio station! In 1994 DJ Red Alert moved to New York's Hot 97 radio station where he did two daily shows. They were the "The Twelve O'clock Old School at Noon Mix" and the "Five O'clock Free Ride." In the year 2001 Red returned home to 98.7 Kiss FM in New York City. The World Famous Kool DJ Red Alert Old School at Noon Mixshow can be heard daily Monday thru Friday on New York City's Power 105.1 FM.
Before you knew it, Red met up with producer Vincent Davis, of the Vintertainment Record label, through DJ Chuck Chillout, to produce Red's First record, "Hip Hop On Wax, Volume 2." Red was well on the way to becoming one of the most noted names in the business. Red deejayed for artist Sparky D during the Roxanne, Roxanne era. He also became a member of the Boogie Down Productions, touring the country with KRS One. Since then, Red has done super mixes for compilation albums on Next Plateau Records and Epic Records.
Now a seasoned veteran as radio jock, club jock and studio man, Kool DJ Red Alert has established his place as one of the world's premier DJ's. To top it off Red Alert owns a production and management company, Red Alert Productions (RAP). The company garnered a reputation for developing and promoting new talent. RED is responsible for launching the career of such widely acclaimed acts as the Jungle Brothers, Tribe Called Quest, Black Sheep and Queen Latifah to name four.
In addition DJ Red Alert was the first to introduce numerous hit records including "Soul II Soul" by Jazzy B and "Hold On" by the group En Vogue! If an artist ever hears his or her stuff on Red Alert's shows, you can bet they can assume their work is indeed truly slammin'.
RED continues to be a catalyst for a lot of up and coming artist's. He represents the history and future of hip-hop music and culture. He is constantly surging forward to break new ground in this business called entertainment.
Red says, "You have to learn how to break a new artist on record by working it in and out with familiar records. People are scared to fall. It's OK to fall. You must learn how to fall and be strong so you can come back. A DJ is like the pied piper."
With his attitude toward life and professionalism regarding his craft, surely we are in good hands!
Ultramagnetic MC's Ced Gee
Kool Kieth
DJ Moe Love
T.R. Love
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The group formed in 1984. Many believe that without the group's primary producer, Ced-Gee, the sound and samples, mostly James Brown, wouldn't have been as prominent. Their worldwide buzz started with the 12" single on Next Plateau Records for "Ego Trippin'" in 1986 with the infamous "Substitution" drum break sample,but their actual break-out single was "Funky/Mentally Mad" one of the most sought 12" singles of their career. It was released in 1987 and put the foursome on the map. This led to the release of the album, Critical Beatdown.
Although the Ultramagnetic MCs released a new school classic in 1988, Critical Beatdown, with typical James Brown samples -- they disappeared after that for several years, to return on Mercury Records in 1992, with the album Funk Your Head Up. 1993's The Four Horsemen was considered extremely strange though still brilliant. That was the last album the Ultramagnetic MCs released.
There were several semi-legitimate and compilation albums to follow, many with outtakes or older material not released (such as The B-Sides Companion). In 2001, they released a single, "Make It Rain/Mix It Down" which whetted fans appetite for a reunion album.
In a December 9, 2005 interview on Houston's Late Nite Snax radio show, Kool Keith confirmed rumours that the Ultramagnetic MC's had reformed and recorded a new album to be called "Another Beatdown."
The Ultramagnetic MC's launched the career of self-proclaimed "Bronx Nigga" Tim Dog who brought out the very successful single "Fuck Compton". Kool Keith and Tim Dog reunited on the Ultramagnetic MCs semi-reunion album Big Time. Kool Keith went on to record many solo CDs, including one under the "Dr. Octagon" monicker. His abstract rhymes influenced many rappers, including Pharoahe Monch from Organized Konfusion.
Kool Kieth has had over 20 albums under various aliases and they haven't been the best to be honest, however the very dope and raw and first release on Bobbito Garcia's Fondle 'Em label was a project with Godfather Don as The Cenobites.
A lot of Ultramagnetic MC material was produced or assisted by the late great Paul C.
Ced Gee is the uncredited main producer for Boogie Down Production's-Criminal Minded LP and is a very dope producer in his own right having produced and or remixed for...
-Grandmaster Caz
-Larry Larr
-Finessee & Synquis
-MF 911
-King Tee
-Mark The 45 King
-Kool D & Technolo G
-A Dee & C Nice
-Freddy B & The Mic Masters
and many others.... *
The East Coast remix of 1992's-Poppa Large single was remixed by the first formation of New York's Da Beatminerz.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: The Skinny Boys...
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80's rap group from Bridgeport, Connecticut consisting of rapper brothers "Superman" Jay and "Shockin'" Shaun Harrison, plus beat-boxing cousin Jacques "Jock" Harrison.
They released there debut album 'Wieghtless' back in 1986 and had a moderately successful career.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: The B-Boys (DJ Chuck Chillout,Donald D,Brother B)
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The B-boys hailed from the Bronx, New York.
Their best known record is "Rock The House" which has been sampled on just about every early cut and paste jam.
"2 3 break" and "Cuttin Herbie" were two equally good scratch instrumentals displaying the turntable finesse of Chuck Chillout. "2 3 break" was one of the first records to cut up the well known "Rocket in the pocket" break by Cerrone. All of these tracks were released on Vintertainment records in 1983.
1985 saw their return with "Stick Up Kid" and "Girls" and "Girls Part 2".
Chuck Chillout worked with Run DMC on the "King of Rock" LP primarily on the cut "Daryll & Joe".
Chuck Chillout went on to host a NY rap show on WBLS. In the mid 80's he putt out a solo record on Vintertainment called "Hip Hop On Wax Part 1". This release was part of a three part series. Part 2 was by Kool DJ Red Alert and Part 3 was by DJ Born Supreme Allah (who also made "2,3 Break Pt 2" in 1985). Chuck also put out an album in 1989 called "The Masters of Rhythm" with Kool Chip on Mercury Records which featured "Rhythm is the Master", "No DJ Like Chuck" and "I'm Large". he is also credited with mixing Public Enemy's "Night of the Living Baseheads". He was also known as DJ Steel of Steel Productions.
Donald D was a solo artist for a few years affiliated with Ice T's west coast Rhyme Syndicate putting out two albums. The first one of which was called "Notorious" in 1990. He also did a cameo on Ice T's album "Power". He currently resides in LA where he is working on "Girls Part 3" with Brother B.
In 1995 Chuck Chillout released a single called "2-3 Break '95" on Phat Wax with a vocal group he produced on the b side.
He also discovered the hip hop group Black Moon.
Chuck has a record pool in Newark (which was started in 1999) called FULL BLAST RECORD POOL and is working with a new upcoming artist named FT. NOX.
In addition, he has a show on XM radio Channel 66 Raw.
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: MC Ricky D (aka Slikc Rick)....
Rick "Slick Rick" Walters was born in London in 1965 and moved with his family to the Bronx in 1975.
Charlie Rock of Harlem World crew was very instrumental in bringing "Ricky D" AKA "Slick Rick" and Doug E. Fresh together when he was request by Doug to introduce him to Rick after he has seen him win a number of local MC battle contest. It was at a MC Contest at the 369 Armory on 142nd street in Harlem, given by promotion partners Ray chandler & Charlie Rock, The Rick & Doug were formally introduced by Rock.
As a 19-year-old in the summer of 1985 he scored his first big hits, "La Di Da Di" and "The Show."
Three years later Def Jam Recordings released Rick's first full-length album, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick. Hailed as a showcase for Rick's extraordinary writing and rapping skills, it quickly achieved "platinum" status for sales in excess of one million copies and has since established itself as a rap classic.
At the height of his fame in July of 1990, Rick shot and wounded two people in an ill-advised attempt to protect himself against a violent predator. Convicted of attempted murder in the second degree, he began serving his sentence of three-to-ten years in 1991. While he was in jail, he released "The Ruler's Back" (1991) and "Behind Bars" (1994).
After his release in 1999 he released "The Art of Storytelling."
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