Req wrote:
B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:
Yeah I was going to respond to that assertion as well. Kanye has never been a better rapper than Mase, doesn't matter the period we're talking on either. Better artist & better producer - certainly. But his raps are definitely not better.
i garaun-fuckin-tee you in 1999 you did not give a shit about Mase, nor did you rate him highly in any sort of emceeing capacity.but I get it, he had a relatively short career in the late 90s so he gets the trendy revisionist overhaul. Regardless that the career in question featured him dropping one okay album, one horrible crew album and one dreadful sophomore effort. None of which saw him spitting anything other than middle-verse r&b cameo rhymes before getting destroyed by Jay-Z. Then he came back with another mediocre album and got destroyed by Cam'ron.
Kanye on the other hand helmed 3 classics and a very good album of which he rhymed the lion's share and dropped joints like "Through the Wire," "Diamonds from Sierra Leone" and its remix, "All Falls Down" "Get By," "Spaceship," "Monster," "Power" etc etc. Are his rhymes on there rivaling Nas or Rakim? Obviously not... but the dude who made "Lookin' at Me" and "Feels so Good?" LOL
The fact that this is even being debated was offensive to me, then I remembered where I was. Wake me up when you guys decide that G-Dep was actually the forefront of the new millennial NEW YORK BACK movement before drugs and street crime robbed us of his amazing rhyming talents.
First of all. Nobody was really checking for Mase by 1999,. If you'd read my first post in this thread, you wouldn't think I was asserting that Mase was some godsend on the mic. But like anybody else in this thread who actually listened to rap in the 90's, like when it happened, I bought
Harlem World,
No Way Out,
Life After Death, and
It's Dark and Hell Is Hot, leaving me relatively qualified to talk about how well Mase actually rapped.
Do I listen to those albums more and appreciate them more than I do Kanye albums? That's debatable. Some of them sure, but as you say Mase is just a cameo or two or three on most of those records. But if you asked me would I rather hear an album of Mase at his best over the best production out there or Kanye at his best over the best production out there - I'm taking Mase. 10 out of 10 times. I'm not a fan of what Kanye does on the mic though. I never thought it was anything special.
Play me a Kanye verse anywhere near as ill as this:
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