madlib easily.
kanye's beats are too simple drum wise and sample wise compared to madlib's depth in the boom bap.
Chuck D accidently said it best when he said West just speeds up old records. Dope beats none the less, but madlib is much more of a composer.

wow. madlib is to beats the way moka only is to albums.

shitty.

Madlib

But I don't know the first damn thing about Kanye. He makes beats for like Jay-Z right? And other guys with dumb names who can't rap?

I'm not a huge Madlib fan but the Lootpack record is dope. And most of Madvillian is dope.

I think I heard a Kanye track at a strip club last weekend. In context it wasn't so bad.

what the fuck is pseudo-backpacking? shit doesn't even make sense.

anyway, i voted for madlib. i'll vote for kanye once he drops a reggae mixtape, produces a whole LP for percee p, develops alter egos, sends mf doom 150 beats (and does a dope album with him), and laces numerous 12's from here to the UK all within the span of a year or two. as for now the mostly-skippable college dropout (are those fucking skits even remotely listenable/funny at this point?) and the few guest productions he's done aren't fuckin with madlib's near-decade long catalog.

both of them are overrated as shit, but i like madlib more

Madlib no doubt.

Kanye's style is getting played out. He'll soon be as predictable as The Neptunes.

Madlib keeps things fresh his production never really sounds the same.

if this is straight up artist to artist, madlib is a better producer, but kanye whoops the shit out of madlib the rapper, so that makes it kanye by a nose

die

p.s. your name is girly. it sounds like a wnba player.

I voted Madlib. To be honest - i'm not familiar with much of Kanye Wests material bar the beats he did for Jay-Z and College Dropout (which i think is OK). Can someone post a discography maybe?


Madlib

As Producer (and/or MC):

Alkaholiks - Mary Jane from "21 and Over" LP 1993 (Loud)
Alkaholiks - WLIX from "Coast II Coast" CD/LP 1995 (Loud)
Lootpack - Psyche Move EP 12" and CD 1995 (CDP Records)
Lootpack - The Anthem EP 12" 1998
Lootpack - Questions 12" single 1999
Lootpack - Whenimondamic 12" single 1999
Alkaholiks - Killin It from "Likwidation" CD/LP 1999 (Loud)
Lootpack - Anthem Remix 7" single (Groove Attack - Promotional)
Lootpack - Soundpieces: Da Antidote CD/LP 1999
Declaime - IllMindMuzik 12" EP 1999 (Goodvibe)
Lootpack - Bone Marrow from Strength Magazine's "Subtext" CD/LP 1999 (London/Full Frequency)
Madlib Invazion - interludes from Strength Magazine's "Subtext" CD/LP 1999 (London/Full Frequency)
Quasimoto - Hittin Hooks 7" single 1999
Quasimoto - Microphone Mathematics 12" single 1999
427 - Business Deals/What Is It 12" single 2000 (ABB Records)
Quasimoto - Come On Feet 12" 2000
Lootpack - Weededed 12" single 2000
Quasimoto - The Unseen CD/LP 2000
Cali Agents - Up Close And Personal from "How The West Was Won" CD/LP 2000 (Ground Control)
Quasimoto - Basic Instinct 12" 2000
Kazi - Down for the Kaz 12" single 2000
Madlib - Madlib Invazion 7" single 2000
Epitome - Earthquake 12" single 2000
Yesterdays New Quintet - Elle's Theme EP 12" EP 2001
Yesterdays New Quintet - The Bomb Shelter EP 7" single 2001
Madlib - 6 Variations of In the Rain 12" single 2001
Yesterdays New Quintet - Uno Esta EP 12" EP 2001
Yesterdays New Quintet - Rocket Love 7" single 2001 (Stones Throw Fan Club 45 #1 - Promotional)
Medaphoar - In Rhymes We Trust 12" single 2001
Yesterdays New Quintet - Angles Without Edges CD/LP 2001
Declaime - Andsoitisaid (8 songs) LP 2001 (Groove Attack)
The Loopdigga - The Beat Conductor - 2/7" LP 2001
LMNO - Headlock 12" single 2001 (Battle Axe)
Yesterdays New Quintet - Heaven Must Be Like This from "Rewind" 12" single and CD/LP 2002 (Ubiquity)
Quasimoto - Astronaut EP 12" 2002 (Antidote Records)
Madlib - LAX To JFK from Peanut Butter Wolf's "Fusion Beats" CD and 12" EP 2002 (Brown Sugar/Cold Fusion, Japan)
Dudley Perkins - Flowers 7" single 2002
Peanut Butter Wolf & Madlib - Rawcore from v/a "Constant Elevation" CD/LP 2002 (Astralwerks)
Lootpack - On Point 7" single 2002
Wildchild - Knicknack 2002 12" single 2002
Medaphoar - Place Your Bet 7" single 2002
Medaphoar - Bang Ya Head 12" single 2002
Joe McDuhprey Experience - Experience EP 12" 2002
Yesterdays New Quintet - Deja Vu (Weldon Irvine remix) from "Rewind 2" CD/LP 2002 (Ubiquity)
Yesterdays New Quintet - The Meaning of Love 7" single 2002
Wildchild - Heartbeat (Remix) 12" single 2003
Ahmad Miller - Ahmad's First 12" EP 2003
Madlib - Theme For Fergus 7" single (Stones Throw Fan Club 45 #4 - Promotional)
Yesterdays New Quintet - Suite for Weldon 12" EP 2003
Wildchild - Secondary Protocol (6 songs) CD/LP 2003
Jaylib - The Red/The Official 12" single 2003
Madlib - Shades of Blue CD/LP 2003 (Blue Note)
Yesterdays New Quintet - Nuclear War (Sun Ra Remix) from v/a "Dedication: The Myth Lives On" CD/LP and 7" single 2003 (Kindred Spirits)
Dudley Perkins - A Lil' Light CD/LP 2003
Dudley Perkins - Money 12" single 2003
Declaime - Life b/w Enjoy Your Stay 12" single 2003 (Hum Drums)
Sound Directions - Skyscrapers 7" single (Stones Throw Fan Club 45 #5 - Promotional)
Jaylib - Champion Sound/Strip Club 12" single 2003
Jaylib - Champion Sound CD/LP
Jaylib - Ice b/w Raw Addict 12" single 2003
Madvillain - Money Folder b/w America's Most Blunted 12" single 2003
Madlib - Slim's Return 12" single 2003 (Blue Note)
DJ Rels - Diggin In Brownswood (uncredited co-producer) 12" single 2003
Diverse - Ain't Right from "One A.M." CD/LP (Chocolate Industries)
Medaphoar - Now U Know 12" single 2003
Dudley Perkins - Washedbrainsyndrome 12" single 2004
Vast Aire - Look Mom No Hands, Could Be You, Life's Ill from "Look Mom No Hands" CD/LP 2004 (Chocolate Industries)
Madvillain - Curls & All Caps 12" single 2004
Madvillain - Madvillainy CD/LP 2004
Madvillain - One Beer 7" single 2004
Yesterdays New Quintet - Stevie CD/LP 2004
DJ Rels - Song For My Lady (co-produced, uncredited) from Broken Soul 12" single 2004
Aceyalone - KO Player from v/a "True Notes Vol. 1" CD 2004 (Okayplayer)
Malik Flavors - Ugly Beauty 12" EP 2004
Jaylib - McNasty Filth/Pillz 12"/CD single 2004
Declaime - Signs from "Preemtive Hype Vol. 2" 12" EP 2004 (Hiphopsite - Promo)
Prince Po - Too Much, The Slickness, Bump Bump from "The Slickness" CD/LP 2004 (Lex)
Diverse - Beyond, Beyond from "Just Biz" 12" single 2004 (Chocolate Industries)
Monk Hughes & The Outer Realm - Tribute To Brother Weldon CD/LP 2004
DJ Rels - Theme For A Broken Soul (co-produced, uncredited) CD/LP 2004


Madlib Remixes:
Peanut Butter Wolf - Definition of Ill 12" single 1999
Madlib Remixes 12" EP 2000 (bootleg)
Foreign Legion - Nowhere to Hide 12" single 2000 (Insiduos)
Beastie Boys - Shake Your Rump from "Beastie Boys Video Anthology" DVD 2000 (Grand Royal)
Zion I - Critical 12" single 2000 (Ground Control)
J-88 - Get It Together, Things You Do from "Best Kept Secret" CD/LP 2001 (Groove Attack)
Scapegoat Wax - Alison 12" single 2001 (Grand Royal)
Jill Scott - A Long Walk (circa 2001) from Madlib on Worldwide CD 2004 (Promo)
Bilal - Soul Sista 12" & CD single 2002 (Interscope)
Zero 7 - Distractions 12" & CD single 2002 (Ultimate Dilemma)
Madlib - Blunted in the Bomb Shelter Mix CD/LP 2002 (Antidote)
Jazzanova - L.O.V.E. and You and I 12" single 2002 (JCR)
Daedelus - Playing Parties (The Stars Remix) from "The Quiet Party" 12" & CD EP 2002 (Plug Research)
Prozack Turner - Bang It 12" single 2003 (Dreamworks)
Madlib - Young Warrior (Bobby Humphrey Remix) from "Blue Note Revisited" CD/LP 2004 (Blue Note)

madlib is way better...but kayne gets props for making at least a small portion of mtv rap listenable

god thank you... I was in shock at some of the statements going on.

Where the hell is all the Kanye hate coming from?
And please...that whole "all he does is speed up shit" line is so played out...and if you listen to his beats, you'll know that's not true. If you could find the original samples for all your favorite producers, I'm sure you'd be heartbroken on a few tracks.

I'll admit his drum programming is a bit weak at times, but his chops and ear for samples and basslines are dope (Although, he is using a lot of musicians now, so it's hard to discern how much is directly him and how much is John Legend/Miri Ben Ari/whoever else is in the studio). And he definitely is killing Madlib as a rapper.

Why wouldn't Kanye fans know about Madlib shit? I...just...don't understand some of the comments....
Like I quoted from Remo, Madlib is hit or miss. Yes, he does have millions of beats and produces for tons of people and puts in hella work, but I'm just flat out NOT feeling a lot of those beats.
And KaeoFLUX, I don't know if this is a good thing or not, but I am shocked by every one of your posts.

i think someone said it best up there.... a lot of these heads voting don't know shit about the producer they're voting against... i've listened to madvillainy and jaylib maybe twice through so i'm not too familiar with his shit and i've been a kanye jocker since day one so i didn't vote... and oh yea, it's not about how cats make beats, it's how the final product sounds to the ears... fuckin haters

:? i think most people on this board are pretty familiar with madlib and kanye.

madlib makes better albums
kanye makes better singles

Madlib. Becuase he's more creative. I like Kanye alot but, I'd like to see him do more while he's around.

i apologize for this stupid statement. i was in a big time rush...


but anyhow, i have listened to madlib's albums.. lookpack one, madvillian...

i would never even listen to a dudley perkins , wildchild (i heard that knick knack joint that was dope , but mainly cuz of percee p) or medaphoar.

and madvillian, yeah it was a hot album, but only cuz mf doom was on it, and that wasn't even his best performance. those beats are pretty unbearable, except a few... i dont know kanye's production is much better. the joints he produced on scarfaces, jay-z albums, twista.

the only thing i got to say to madlib is that if he puts out that much product, why waste in on such shitty artists (for the most part all the artists over his beats are crappy)...hopefully that percee p album will be ill as fuck and change my mind..i got high hopes.

what a tredmendous comparison!

what with Kanye only having made one album and all.......

well it does, but unfortunately you need an IQ higher than a glass of week old dishwater to comprehend.

if u think all kanye does is loop records and put on simple drums u are shortchanging exactly how good kanye is.

i'd like to see kanye make something remotely close to yesterdays new quintet.
would kanye be as successful as he is without a lot of money backing him to clear these samples?
he'is leaps and bounds a better mc though.

peace
Balzac

i think its alot funnier watching these cats play themselves the fuck out by spitting that when half of their favorite records were likely produced the same way

*goes back to bumping Les Demerle "A Day in the Life"*

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exactly.

wow you're on a roll there. do pseudo-backpacking glasses of dishwater decrease in intelligence over age?

try forming a coherent sentence before you respond next time.

please and thanks.

YNQ, i dunno man, i got their stevie cd when i was shopping the other day and it let me down alot. i was like wtf :shock: cuz i love stevie, and i love madlib but shit was booty.

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producers dont clear samples....mc's and labels usually do from what i understand. for evidence of kanye's dopeness check an instrumental of "this way". and for thinking kanye is a better rapper than producer , well, either you dont listen to his music or you're a crackhead.

i voted for madlib because as a producer he digs waaaaaay deeper for his samples than kanye does as of right now. the reason so many people understimate kanye saying that he "just speeds up songs" is because so many of his samples come from familiar, easy to find records. madlib uses the exact same techniques as kanye in making beats but uses records that are much more rare and hard to find. this is why madlib comes so fresh and new all the time, because for many listeners it is the very first time that they have heard those sounds.

but in all honesty this poll is bullshit. you cant compare an up and coming producer with one who has been around for as long as madlib has. who is better, albert pujols or barry bonds? get the fuck out of here with that, such comparisons cant be made for at least another 15 years. we have to sit and watch kanye develop like madlib has had the luxury to do. my biggest fear with kanye is that his early success will cause him to stop exploring as a beatmaker and keep his same style going (which is getting old) and he'll get stale, a la the neptunes. kanye just needs a deeper collection of wax.

1.) you're a newjack newbie
2.) kanye has been around since 1996 (Grav), but you wouldn't know that cuz you're a newjack newbie. matter of fact, he's been around almost longer than madlib.
3.) bonds is better.
4.) don't grow balls on your 2nd post.
5.) get your facts straight and then sign up under a new name. we hate you already!

my pops STILL does this.



I listen to more Kanye than I do Madlib buy Madlibs got my vote

i think madlb is better but i dont really think this has anything to do with it.

kanye is very good but i just prefer madlibs style.
madlib sounds more boom bap to me and when he loops up his stuff half the time they sound looser (i cant think of a better way to describe it) and more like a new composition than just a straight sample with drums tacked on (check c'mon feet vs magic chef)