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I read 6th rounder at best


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which one is worse?


I don't see how one is qualitatively worse than the other. They're both really fucking bad. Personalities have nothing to do with it.


:larry: x 100

Electronic eavesdropping is against the law, first off. Secondly, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO TAPE DEFENSIVE SIGNALS FROM THE BOOTH AND SEAT. You aren't allowed to do it from the sidelines like the Patriots did (oh the horror!). If taping defensive signals was such an affront to the game why would teams be allowed to do it at all? Spygate was overblown because every person in the stadium can see the coach calling out defensive signals, they do it in the open!!!!!!!

Popeye you are way too smart to believe that eavesdropping on conversations that were meant to be private is as culpable as taping what is in the open and what the naked eye is allowed to see.


:cheers: On top of that there is intent. When you wiretap there is no other intent except to cheat. With spygate hoddie had no intent to cheat he just did not understand the rule correctly. This is not to say what he did was not wrong but he never tried to hide what he was doing and he thought it was ok. And as rapping coffin said you are not really getting all that much info that you already can get from the side line or the booth. While wiretapping you are getting private information that you would not be able to get another way.


I can agree the eavesdropping is worse, but do not agree about Spygate being overblown. Well maybe somewhat, but I still feel what the Pats did was wrong. No where near on this level tho'. The Saints have been losing their minds lately.


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The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that the Falcons have agreed to terms with CB Asante Samuel on a three-year, $18.5 million contract. The trade is all but complete. Samuel's old deal had $21.3 million over two years remaining in base salary alone, so he's accepting a sizable pay cut from that contract. The Philly Inquirer confirms the Eagles will "likely" receive a sixth-round pick in exchange, while also unloading a heavy dose of cap space.


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BOOM. falcons pull the trigger. sweet.


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supposedly Osi is available for a 3rd rounder.


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ThaJim2 wrote:
With spygate hoddie had no intent to cheat he just did not understand the rule correctly.


:rofl:


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He never tried to hide what he was doing


:rofl: :rofl:

The old "everyone is lying except for the guy who has a reason to lie" yarn. I think I've heard this one before.

(also worth noting we have exactly the same amount of evidence about this Saints microphone scandal as we do about the Pats 2002 Super Bowl pre-game video scandal -- an unnamed source, and folks who have been penalized for other cheating saying the accusation is preposterous. You can't reasonably believe one and not the other at this point).


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PopeyeJones wrote:
ThaJim2 wrote:
With spygate hoddie had no intent to cheat he just did not understand the rule correctly.


:rofl:


Here is the rule

"No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game...All video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead."

and here is why the Hoodie thought he was ok from the bylaws of the NFL.

"any communications or information-gathering equipment, other than Polaroid-type cameras or field telephones, shall be prohibited...including without limitation...any other form of electronic devices that might aid a team during the playing of a game"

Since he was just collecting this information for general purposes and not for ingame use.

Here is why the Pats got in trouble

"videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game"

Not a rule but from a memo. That memo was sent Sept 2006.

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He never tried to hide what he was doing


:rofl: :rofl:

The old "everyone is lying except for the guy who has a reason to lie" yarn. I think I've heard this one before.

(also worth noting we have exactly the same amount of evidence about this Saints microphone scandal as we do about the Pats 2002 Super Bowl pre-game video scandal -- an unnamed source, and folks who have been penalized for other cheating saying the accusation is preposterous. You can't reasonably believe one and not the other at this point).


Any filming the Pats did before Sept 2006 was in no way against the rules unless it happened during the game an alligation that never was made. Nevermind that recording of the Rams never actually happened.

Finally getting back to the intent. The pats never once hid what they where doing. If your intent is to cheat most people do not decide to cheat against a team that just hired one of your former coworkers that knew about the video taping and go about setting up the camera equipment.


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^^^^ I've heard all of Belichick's talking points on all of this already. No need to reproduce what he said in his ABC interview over and over again. We're just going to have to respectfully disagree because I can't see how this is going to go anywhere.


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....And in more interesting and less partisan news....no more Pro-Bowl?

:bow: :bow: :bow: if true.

All for naming people to the team, and just not playing the game.

I know it's impossible, but given how obsessive people are over the draft, it would be fucking awesome if they had a first years v. to-be-drafted game to compete with the East West Shrine game. Not a chance in hell it could ever work, but fuck, that would be great.


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....And in more interesting and less partisan news....no more Pro-Bowl?

:bow: :bow: :bow: if true.

All for naming people to the team, and just not playing the game.

I know it's impossible, but given how obsessive people are over the draft, it would be fucking awesome if they had a first years v. to-be-drafted game to compete with the East West Shrine game. Not a chance in hell it could ever work, but fuck, that would be great.

:cheers: I agree with you on all fronts here. A kinda fun game between the best of senior bowl players vs. players voted in by fans would be cool. It goes without saying the best Jr.'s and Sr.'s wouldn't play because there's too much money on the line for them, but it's a great idea in theory.

Realistically, just name players to the All-Pro teams and pay them out as if they played the meaningless game.


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As someone who lives in Hawaii, trust that no one gives a fuck about that game. We just want your monies.


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So Vernon and Vontae Davis' brother is a fucking serial killer?

Jesus.

http://wusa9.com/news/article/203843/44 ... r-Assaults


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Jonathan Vilma banned for year
Updated: May 2, 2012, 11:57 AM ET
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The NFL suspended four players for their roles in the New Orleans Saints' bounty system, including linebacker Jonathan Vilma for the entire 2012 season.

In addition to Vilma, defensive tackle Anthony Hargrove was suspended eight games, defensive Will Smith four games and linebacker Scott Fujita (now with the Cleveland Browns) three games.

A league investigation found that from 2009-11 New Orleans coaches and players put together a bounty system that paid out improper cash bonuses for hits aimed at knocking opposing players out of games. The NFL says as many as 27 Saints participated.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell already has suspended Saints coach Sean Payton for the 2012 season and fined the team $500,000. Saints former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is suspended indefinitely, New Orleans general manager Mickey Loomis begins an eight-game ban after the preseason, and interim coach Joe Vitt begins serves his six-game suspension at the same time.

Payton's suspension began April 16 and runs through the Super Bowl, which, incidentally, is in New Orleans. During that time, Payton may not even have casual, non-football conversations with anyone on any NFL team without at least notifying the league office.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.


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oh fuck!

vilma was my favorite jet in his short time here. this is sad, but he must've been greg williams' extension onto the field

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seems wayyy too harsh. a whole year? c'mon now.

fuck brett favre.


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I love that Smith and Vilma restructured their contracts recently to prepare them for upcoming suspensions/fines



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I love that Smith and Vilma restructured their contracts recently to prepare them for upcoming suspensions/fines



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TMZ is reporting that Junior Seau died today

:icedit: Confirmed. Sounds like he was murdered. Rest in peace.


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TMZ is reporting that Junior Seau died today


:ohsh:
I hope that's a mistake.
Never was a fan, but gotdamn, that's too soon to go.
Someone check up on Tweak.


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That's insane. I'm assuming that he committed suicide.

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He texted a simple "Love You" to his ex-wife and kids yesterday. It sounds like he was saying goodbye.

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RIP to the man. wonder what his medical condition was.

RIP saints

vilma - year
smith (NO de) - 4 games
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In lighter news, Ed Wang is a Raider.


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Scott Fujita name surprises me for being invovled.


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Ravens LB Terrell Suggs tore his Achilles playing basketball.


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^^^ Out for the year. Huge fucking loss for them. Have to wonder if they'll go after Osi now.


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Eli is killing it on SNL. His faces and pronunciation of "kewl" in the court room skit had me rolling.

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Eli is killing it on SNL. His faces and pronunciation of "kewl" in the court room skit had me rolling.


i thought he was pretty damn funny. the kewl skit, with the cell phone texts

sup
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

shit was LOLZ




in other news, justin blackmon is on track to being a bust


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Justin Blackmon - WR - Jaguars Justin Blackmon was held out of the final day of Jaguars rookie minicamp with a sore right foot.
Coach Mike Mularkey characterized Blackmon's injury as "general soreness," and insisted his absence was precautionary. Blackmon gets nine days off before the Jags convene for OTAs. There are no indications the injury is a concern.


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